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« on: 21:39:32, 03-05-2007 »
So far as I am aware, I have never heard this before - what a waste of many years! Absolutely compelling. I wonder if Beethoven was aware of this music? The intensity, absorption and spirituality of this work brought the late quartets to my mind, at least. I shall look out for this again. Any recommendations?
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #1 on: 21:52:36, 03-05-2007 »
I don't have any recommendations but I'm keen to see what others might recommend.

This is one I'll very likely be checking out some time:



The odd thing is I'm listening to a sort of atheist equivalent. Any guesses what it might be?  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: 22:02:22, 03-05-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 21:52:36, 03-05-2007
The odd thing is I'm listening to a sort of atheist equivalent. Any guesses what it might be?  Wink
The Execution of Stepan Razin, I'll wager.

I don't know the choral version of the 7 Words myself. The quartet version by the Mosaïques is very fine. And then there's the Schütz 7 Words, which if anything is to me more moving than the Haydn, in that austere way Schütz had.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:05:17, 03-05-2007 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 22:02:22, 03-05-2007
The Execution of Stepan Razin, I'll wager.
Not equivalent in that sense although oddly enough you've got the composer right.

I have the orchestra-only version with Savall sitting next to me although I'm not going to interrupt what's spinning now for it...


OK, on to the Savall now. That reminds me: I'm thirsty...
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« Reply #4 on: 23:37:06, 03-05-2007 »
The Savall is very fine, I'm now in a position to report. Gorgeous playing, sounds like it was recorded in a church but that's probably because it was and since it was written to be played in one I suppose one shouldn't grumble. The narration's rather fine, Rafael Taibo chewing nicely on his Latin. And the music, well, it's Haydn isn't it? So of course it's good in a way that one can't quite put one's finger on because music did rather develop away from that sort of thing.

No one knows the atheist equivalent I was listening to earlier?
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« Reply #5 on: 10:23:55, 04-05-2007 »
I found the Haydn rather  a strain towards the end,probably from the relative absence of vibrato inthe violins which tended to make them sound sour and out of tune to my ears. I can't believe this is how Haydn wanted it to sound. Yet again I find a present day concert falls short of the pleasure I get from an old recording (e.g. Amadeus or Busch for the  Schubert) .

As far as I know there are five versions of this work,though two or more may be the same; I have not seen a score.

Orchestra
Choir and Orchestra
String Orchestra
String Quartet
Piano solo.
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« Reply #6 on: 22:50:55, 23-05-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 22:05:17, 03-05-2007
Not equivalent in that sense although oddly enough you've got the composer right.

Shosta 15 perhaps?? Ooh, those single-note ppp-fff crescendos... (or whatever the dynamic markings are: I've never seen a score). Oliver, I think I told you about hearing the Fitzwilliams play it in Oxford c1975 when it was brand spanking new, and those noises were a completely unprepared raw shock!
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