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« Last Edit: 11:33:54, 03-06-2007 by Lord Byron »
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marbleflugel
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« Reply #1 on: 11:39:47, 03-06-2007 » |
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I reckon she could pull off the last night gig. I have a bit of a CJ thing going on Milord ;)as you have with la Jansen
The problem for me as a p/t muso is that I can't bring myself to go to one of her gigs for fear of a cheese outbreak
when she's not on stage-this may seem ungallant I know. I would be for promoting a Jenkins/ Hoddinott summit.
Where do you stand Milord?
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'...A celebrity is someone who didn't get the attention they needed as an adult'
Arnold Brown
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #2 on: 17:36:06, 03-06-2007 » |
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Has this, errr, "opera singer" been in any akchal operas yet? I would have thought the Trade Descriptions Act might apply?  |
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
- Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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Tam Pollard
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« Reply #3 on: 18:04:37, 03-06-2007 » |
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Thanks for the link Byron, it's always nice to have a bit of a chuckle. The only reference to the Proms I could see comes in the entry "Shock news: Katherine NOT singing at Last Night of Proms!" which includes this gem: This is a national disgrace and I for one shall be boycotting the Proms in protest at this outrageous slight on the greatest mezzo-soprano who ever lived.
Whoever organises these concerts clearly has no idea about real musical talent. In fact, the Proms are totally overrated and they can't even afford air-conditioning in the Royal Albert Hall! I looked on their website and it was mostly really boring classical music from composers so obscure that they never ever get played on Classic FM. There was nothing by Andrew Lloyd-Webber or Bryan Adams at all!
I can't quite make up my mind how much (if any) was said with tongue in cheek. And no Reiner, as far as I'm aware, she, like that other 'great opera singer' Russell Watson, has never actually sung an opera. bws |
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« Reply #5 on: 20:33:49, 03-06-2007 » |
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That nice Mrs Puw over the road for a start.
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'...A celebrity is someone who didn't get the attention they needed as an adult'
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« Reply #6 on: 20:38:33, 03-06-2007 » |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #7 on: 20:39:39, 03-06-2007 » |
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« Reply #8 on: 20:41:04, 03-06-2007 » |
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To be fair, I don't think Mario Lanza ever sang a full operatic role or performed in a staged opera.
Is she related to Karl Jenkins?
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #9 on: 21:04:11, 03-06-2007 » |
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She seems to sing quite a few soprano operatic lollipops, transposed to make them work for her own tessitura. I have no objection to what she does, and good luck to her with it. I am quite certain she wouldn't work for the kind of money opera theatres pay anyhow - nor would she put up with the amount of hard work that is required. But if you want a sensational sexy mezzo who is going further than Festiniog, then this is the girl you want: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z2HhE7BUAc4 |
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
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Lord Byron
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« Reply #10 on: 10:24:29, 04-06-2007 » |
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I reckon she could pull off the last night gig. I have a bit of a CJ thing going on Milord ;)as you have with la Jansen
The problem for me as a p/t muso is that I can't bring myself to go to one of her gigs for fear of a cheese outbreak
when she's not on stage-this may seem ungallant I know. I would be for promoting a Jenkins/ Hoddinott summit.
Where do you stand Milord?
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« Reply #11 on: 10:50:57, 04-06-2007 » |
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Hi,John W,you ask 'who has said that she is an opera singer ?'
The Radio Times,for one,one of the best selling weekly magazines in Britain , with a supposed reputation for accuracy.
This week's issue ,page 18: '(Darcy)Bussell is teaming up with opera star Katherine Jenkins.. .her operatic counterpart'.
Now, 'counterpart'? Darcy Bussell has danced repeatedly in many staged productions
of full-length ballets . Has Katherine Jenkins ever appeared on stage professionally in any full-length opera? If not,I suggest it is unfair to all real opera singers to describe her as Darcy's 'operatic counterpart'.
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John W
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« Reply #12 on: 11:24:29, 04-06-2007 » |
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Quite right smittins. Going back 40 years we had Harry Secombe and Kenneth McKellar singing operatic arias on TV. Now, Kenneth McKellar did have a proper operatic career (though many TV viewers would have been unaware of that). I don't think Secombe ever did and no-one ever referred to Secombe as an opera singer, mainly because he was more associated with the Goons and comedy on TV/radio, and McKellar latterly was more associated with singing light ballads and traditional Scottish songs. As to why Ms Jenkins is referred to as an opera star is, well, just foolish ignorance in my opinion. Another instance of dumbing down of RT/BBC  John W |
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smittims
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« Reply #13 on: 12:01:20, 04-06-2007 » |
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Quite right ,John,and th4e difference with MacKellar and Secombe was the absence of any pretence about what they were doing. .
Harry Secombe did actually sing on stage many times as Pickwick,in the musical written for him.It did involve singing without a microphone,with orchestra,in a conventional opera house, 'arias' of conventional operatic tenor range . And he did it quite late in life too, becoming something of an institution, .One of my son's treasured memories is of going on a school trip tothe Liverpool Empire to see him in 'Pickwick' .
Yet he never have claimed it was anything but entertainment. This is what grates about the hype surrounding Ketherine Jenkins. There must be many hard -working opera singers who feel quite angry about it.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #14 on: 12:06:02, 04-06-2007 » |
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Harry Secombe did sing at least one conventional opera role, in a normal production. He sang Canio, in a production set-up to generate funds for a charity with which Secombe was associated. I never saw the show, so I have no idea how it went - but sing he did.
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