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There is no sullying in listening to the Rossini. Berio would have delighted in it.
By the way, have others been experiencing a few drop-outs in the audio during the recent discussion on BBC4?
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There is no sullying in listening to the Rossini. Berio would have delighted in it.
By the way, have others been experiencing a few drop-outs in the audio during the recent discussion on CBEEBIES?
it's not a work i'm keen on and, hearing the berio for the first time, i want to revel in it for a while. |
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« Reply #17 on: 20:33:11, 16-07-2007 » |
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Strange that Sinfonia has become such a modern classic when Berio's Opera (not his only opera but the only one with that as its title), which in many ways is related to it, is hardly ever mentioned, let alone performed. I haven't heard it all but the sections that I have heard are quite stunning, in the same way Sinfonia is. Tonybob, if you're interested in a bit more Berio, a lot of his best stuff can be found here http://www.avantgardeproject.org/AGP26/index.htmand here http://www.avantgardeproject.org/AGP27/index.htmto download for free. His work hasn't been particularly well-served on CD apart from a few recordings of Sinfonia, Folk Songs and the Sequenza series of solo pieces, which is hard to understand given that its mode of expression is so direct. |
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thanks richard.
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I've not heard any of "Opera". I'm sure there must be at least one recording of it lurking somewhere in 'the vaults' though. Before it became SkyArts, Artsworld transmitted "Outis", but made a real mess of the job, with very brief audio drop-outs avery 20 seconds, accompanied by slight disruption to the video signal. The prpoblem hit both the evening boradcast, and the repeat the following afternoon. I learned later that a further broadcast took place a couple of months after those first two, but missed that one. Whether it was plagued with the same technical problems I do not know. However, at least we know there is a video of the performance somewhere.
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There is no sullying in listening to the Rossini. Berio would have delighted in it.
By the way, have others been experiencing a few drop-outs in the audio during the recent discussion on BBC4?
Thank god for that! I thought I was going a bit deaf. Actually I don't think the sound was at all good for the Berio, I could hardly hear the girl, who was nearly eating the mike anyway. I turned it right up but she was totally drowned out by him. I couldn't make out a lot of the sounds that she was making. I'm afraid it put me off a bit, watching them nearly swallowing the mikes. Everything is ok now during the Rossini so I don't know what went wrong at all. However I may now buy the cd. It was an extremely difficult piece for everyone, singers and orchestra alike. I think I'd like to get to know it better, not having heard it before this evening. |
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We pass this way but once. This is not a rehearsal!
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« Reply #21 on: 20:59:07, 16-07-2007 » |
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Damn it! There was another drop-out just now, in the Rossini! Let's hope they get it right for the 1 a.m. repeat.  |
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I've not heard any of "Opera" You've heard at least one of Agnus, Air, Melodrama and E vo, surely. All of these come from Opera. I'd be at a bit of a loss to know which recording of Sinfonia to recommend. There doesn't seem to me much to choose between the ones I have. But our resident Green Man and Berio expert might have something to say about this, I hope. |
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« Reply #23 on: 21:24:39, 16-07-2007 » |
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Richard, somewhere in their archive, the Beeb have a recording Berio made with the BBC Phil for a CotW devoted to his music. It was a real glory. If only they would dig it out an stick it on a BBC Music Magazine cover disc.
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Damn it! There was another drop-out just now, in the Rossini! Let's hope they get it right for the 1 a.m. repeat. Bryn they haven't got the balance right at all. (Unless there's something wrong with my tv). |
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« Reply #25 on: 21:38:55, 16-07-2007 » |
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There's precious little choice right now: it's either the recent Eötvös on DG or Boulez on Warner - the latter now available for about a fiver on Apex. Neither's perfect, though the concensus seems to be that the Eötvös is the best so far. There used to be a Decca by Chailly, and the original Boulez CBS was recorded before the last movement was written, which would therefore rule it out were it available - which it isn't. I've not heard that CotW one, but it certainly sounds as if it ought to be made available
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« Reply #26 on: 21:43:38, 16-07-2007 » |
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I also have one by Semyon Bychkov, acquired mainly on the grounds of the other piece on the disc (Canticum novissimi testamenti) not being otherwise available at the time, and I haven't heard the Eötvös. I think I would tend towards favouring Boulez, but that may be because it's the recording I know best.
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« Reply #27 on: 21:53:32, 16-07-2007 » |
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I have the Boulez, too (and indeed the earlier incomplete LP version, not to mention the tape of that 1968 prom, which is what I learnt the work from). From what I remember of the review of the Eötvös on CDR, it came down mainly to a case of the balance being better, rather than huge differences in the performance.
What label's the Bychkov on, r? I seem to have missed that one completely.
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« Reply #28 on: 21:58:39, 16-07-2007 » |
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It's on Philips, Ron.
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