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i'll miss this as i've got the offer of a free curry.
it's an obvious choice.
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Really? I rather like what I've heard under David Robertson's baton in the past (a rather fine Christ on the Mount of Olives at an Edinburgh festival a couple of year's back and last year's Meistersinger). Of course, if Ives and Bernstein don't do it for you.....
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Well I've got the next two days off. That's 3 Proms I intend to make. Arena, of course.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:53:20, 17-07-2007 » |
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Hope to see you and some others later in the season Bryn?(see post re Prom 4)
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« Reply #4 on: 11:56:23, 17-07-2007 » |
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I will have to do some careful planning of days off, or just driving during the other drivers' breaks, marbleflugel.
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« Reply #5 on: 21:37:54, 17-07-2007 » |
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I'm eagerly awaiting Bryns first hand report.
Among many specialities Ive noted more than a penchant for the symphonic works of Ives !
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« Reply #6 on: 01:06:00, 18-07-2007 » |
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I have commented briefly on the Striggio, Lassus and Tallis thread, Alison. The Ives was rather slow and a tad too refined throughout, but I still had a tear in my eye by the time it got to the closing wordless presentation of the melody of "Nearer, my God, to Thee". Not a bad effect to have on a non-proselytizing atheist.  |
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« Reply #7 on: 09:20:07, 18-07-2007 » |
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I was there too. I had never heard the Bernstein, and can't imagine why - well worth further hearings, I thought.
Unfortunately, my memory of this has been totally subsumed by the Ives. What a remarkable work! I have heard it before - I have it on an LP set of Ives 4 symphonies - but it must be 20 years since I last heard it, and never live. What an experience. Fortunate the few who bothered to turn up, fortunate the BB4 & R3 audience. Mesmerising, hugely complex, very 'difficult', totally engrossing. And the big surprise was the 3rd movement - a vast, lambent fugue for strings & occasional organ and trombone, which made me think of Sibelius, Death & Transfiguration, Transfigured Night, even the cavatina from Beethoven op130 - a calm sea of tranquility in the midst of all the dream-quality frenetic action going on around it.
I am ashamed to say I had never heard of David Robertson before, but sitting in the Choir (as always), I could see that he was having the time of his life steering through this maelstrom of a piece. Oh - and the theremin - never seen one before, and unfortunately couldn't hear it...
The late-night Prom was also highly enjoyable, moving in a very different way - and (seriously) three times the size of the early Prom audience
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« Reply #8 on: 11:13:33, 18-07-2007 » |
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The Theremin can be heard very clearly in the BBC4 version, (very low register, just before the final chorus comes in, playing "Nearer my God to Thee"), and probably in that broadcast on Radio 3 too, (I have yet to listen to that one). I could not hear it in the Hall, either.
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« Reply #9 on: 11:49:43, 18-07-2007 » |
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The Theremin was very very quiet. Metres made all the difference as to whether you could hear it or not. I was over that side so I heard it, but people just a couple further down didn't.
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« Reply #10 on: 12:25:02, 18-07-2007 » |
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In the main a very enjoyable concert - had to switch off half way through the Bernstein though as it's one of the tackiest, most derivative things I've ever heard. Incompetent and unworthy of the Proms.
The slow movement of the Ives was wonderful.
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« Reply #11 on: 12:47:18, 18-07-2007 » |
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The Bernstein seems to be splitting opinion almost as much as the Hayden! Plaudits for the piece as well as brickbats. I'll have to admit to sitting in the middle: I rarely listen to the first two movements, but derivative or not (and the fourth movement I'd have said was very original for its day) I find myself returning to the last half regularly; I've been hooked on it ever since Previn did a TV lecture on it in the sixties: most of the works I came to know in my teens seem to have exercised their hold ever since...
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« Reply #12 on: 13:02:42, 18-07-2007 » |
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Thankfully I recorded the concert so I'll be able to check out the second half of the Bernstein!
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« Reply #13 on: 13:14:13, 18-07-2007 » |
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Not a terribly convincing performance, it must be said: the scintillating sparkle was more like sluggish tarnish, and the balance just bizarre both on TV and R3.
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« Reply #14 on: 13:57:53, 18-07-2007 » |
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The Theremin can be heard very clearly in the BBC4 version, (very low register, just before the final chorus comes in, playing "Nearer my God to Thee"), and probably in that broadcast on Radio 3 too, (I have yet to listen to that one). I could not hear it in the Hall, either.
Here's the DAB version, from the entry of the Theremin, to the end. It will only stay there for 7 days. |
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