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eruanto
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« on: 11:20:18, 07-08-2007 »

Sunday August 17th 2008

Britten: Noye's Fludde


Noye: John Tomlinson



there is no such thing as over-preparedness
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« Reply #1 on: 12:24:36, 07-08-2007 »

Tempted already...
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« Reply #2 on: 10:46:39, 08-08-2007 »

Is this going to be in the RAH? It hardly seems the right place for it. I hope they televise it.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:13:35, 08-08-2007 »

I saw the EOG Proms Burning Fiery Furnace there in the 60s, Mary: they used the Arena, and did it in the round, as happened also with the Birmingham Curlew River, televised a couple of years ago.
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« Reply #4 on: 14:03:38, 08-08-2007 »

as happened also with the Birmingham Curlew River, televised a couple of years ago.
Indeed - you may even be able to glimpse me sitting on one of the audience benches on the stage! (I don't know if you can, actually, as I never saw the broadcast.)
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« Reply #5 on: 14:07:09, 08-08-2007 »

I thought that Curlew River was terrific, and I don't usually like updated productions.

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« Reply #6 on: 14:23:02, 08-08-2007 »

I have to agree with you there, Mary. Nothing had to be distorted, so the piece lost nothing in translation. It's one of the reasons I'm not against modernisation per se: I just wish that more modernised productions were as sensitively thought out.
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« Reply #7 on: 15:36:15, 08-08-2007 »

I saw the EOG Proms Burning Fiery Furnace there in the 60s, Mary: they used the Arena, and did it in the round.

I've just looked that one up. A cast and set of instrumentalists to die for, Ron. Oddly there is no conductor mentioned, at least in the prospectus, though Britten himself was conducting a St John Passion a couple of days later. Can the Church Parables be done without one? I see that Philip Ledger was playing the organ part so maybe he was doing the nodding when necessary? (Also Brian Wilson on harp, pre-Beach Boys?) 

And the Schubert Octet in the first half Smiley. Also played in the middle of the Arena perhaps?

Winding forward to 2008, I am sure John Tomlinson will make a superb Noye. One to look forward to. Thanks eruanto.
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« Reply #8 on: 16:00:04, 08-08-2007 »

The Church Parables are specifically designed to be performed without a conductor, GG. There are internal guidelines in the score for where the cues are, and the very detailed original stage directions even include hand gestures which control musical events. Britten went so far as to invent a new notational symbol (the 'curlew mark') to signify exactly at what point various lines which were working independently of each other should come together again.
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« Reply #9 on: 16:13:14, 08-08-2007 »

 Smiley one of the best soloist sites on the net
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« Reply #10 on: 16:45:49, 08-08-2007 »

Thanks for that, Ron. I never knew that before!
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« Reply #11 on: 17:24:34, 08-08-2007 »

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Burning Fiery Furnace
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And the Schubert Octet in the first half
What an unexpectedly lovely programme idea!
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« Reply #12 on: 17:41:47, 08-08-2007 »

I saw the EOG Proms Burning Fiery Furnace there in the 60s, Mary: they used the Arena, and did it in the round.

I've just looked that one up. A cast and set of instrumentalists to die for, Ron. Oddly there is no conductor mentioned, at least in the prospectus, though Britten himself was conducting a St John Passion a couple of days later. Can the Church Parables be done without one? I see that Philip Ledger was playing the organ part so maybe he was doing the nodding when necessary? (Also Brian Wilson on harp, pre-Beach Boys?) 

And the Schubert Octet in the first half Smiley. Also played in the middle of the Arena perhaps?

Yes, GG, the Schubert was done in the Arena, too. The BFF cast was as per the first performance apart from Kenneth MacDonald taking over the Pears role. I mentioned this wonderful tenor only recently: he died in his forties, though he can be heard on a couple of recordings, particularly in another Pears part: Flute in MND on the composer's recording, where Pears moves instead to the role of Lysander, working with a Hermia who had sung Oberon in the opera house (Josephine Veasey, who been given the role at Covent Garden in the mid 60s after their first performer - the American Russell Oberlin - proved all but inaudible in the house: I can still recall the review headline, in the Mail of all places; "Oh Oberon, your voice was too fairy-like!". To complete this Proms circle, he was the other reciter with Hermione Gingold in that Walton-led Façade we mentioned earlier.)
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« Reply #13 on: 18:52:57, 08-08-2007 »

"Oh Oberon, your voice was too fairy-like!"
Cheesy Cheesy For some reason that reminds me of a Monteverdi opera review Bayan Northcott once ran in the Independent under the headline 'Hello Sailor!'.
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