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Author Topic: Prom 46: Elgar - The Apostles  (Read 389 times)
eruanto
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« on: 22:55:59, 18-08-2007 »

Surely the mark of true genius - that in a work with such a blatant Christian doctrine, a very moving experience can still be had for a non-Christian. It happens with Gerontius as well.

The last time I saw Peter Rose was complete with donkey head, which nearly poked me in the eye a few times.
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George Garnett
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« Reply #1 on: 09:50:49, 19-08-2007 »

I wasn't able to hear all of it unfortunately but was very impressed with what I did hear. Excellent work from the chorus in particular. The only slight disappointment I felt was Anthony Dean Griffey but perhaps I was expecting too much having heard great things about him. Otherwise it would be difficult to imagine a better set of soloists.

I don't know if it felt like this in the hall, eruanto, but like last week's Gotterdamerung, it came across on the radio as one of those rare and precious occasions when the audience was wholly caught up with the work and their concentration and attention added to the performance. Petroc T descibed it as a 'packed' hall which surprised me a bit given recent lowish attendances and the fact that it was one of the 'non Gerontius' oratorios. Very attentive packed, if so.
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« Reply #2 on: 11:48:13, 19-08-2007 »

Certainly on the fuller side, parts of the choir were unsold, but possibly they had been put on late after they actually knew how much space would be taken up with actually singers.

Attentive probably true, when the front row weren't being distracted by sartorial and water-bottle related faux pas by half the soloists...
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eruanto
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« Reply #3 on: 11:58:52, 19-08-2007 »

Cheesy water bottles cannot be subtly handled, it seems. A good job they weren't any bigger.

The website's description of the soloists is rather unhelpful - which was singing Jesus, for example?? I'm guessing it's Alan Opie, by process of elimination - it certainly wasn't Rose, and I can't imagine that voice being described as a "Wotan in the making", as was Rutherford's in the Pre-Prom Talk. Whoever it was I didn't like his voice at all, and found myself stifling a few snickers.

Incredible it was only the second Proms performance.  Huh
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« Reply #4 on: 12:09:51, 19-08-2007 »

A water fight broke out between the BVM and a couple of saints?!

From the Radio Times:

Blessed Virgin/Angel   Amanda Roocroft (soprano)
Mary Magdalene       Catherine Wyn-Rogers (mezzo)
St John                  Anthony Dean Griffey (tenor)
Jesus                     Alan Opie (baritone)
Judas                     James Rutherford (bass-baritone)
St Peter                 Peter Rose (bass)         
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eruanto
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« Reply #5 on: 12:12:32, 19-08-2007 »

But George, did you not hear all those loud bangs at the intermissions? That was soloists knocking water bottles over. And over again. Cheesy

Thanks for that info! I shall make a mental note to avoid Opie at all costs...
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #6 on: 23:14:02, 19-08-2007 »

Did you manage to get a copy of the words, eruanto? Did it affect your enjoyment of the concert one way or the other?
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eruanto
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« Reply #7 on: 23:21:44, 19-08-2007 »

Did you manage to get a copy of the words, eruanto? Did it affect your enjoyment of the concert one way or the other?

Well, I was in the second row of the arena, so most of them (certainly from the soloists) were crystal-clear Smiley

If I were a believer, then I dare say it could have been annoying, but as it is, just fine and dandy!
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« Reply #8 on: 12:15:39, 20-08-2007 »

eruanto - from the first row I found myself needing to follow the libretto for the choral passages, but never during the solos.  Very good diction all round.

And I was so pleased that the water-bottle toppling didn't continue over to the right of the rostrum.  (For the benefit of those who weren't there, it was like a delayed domino effect - Catherine Wyn-Rogers, on the far left, knocked hers over first, then Alan Opie second from left, then Amanda Roocroft third from left - and all during the rests  Cheesy)  Fortunately Anthony Dean Griffey declined to take his "turn" Cheesy

These soloists... can't take them anywhere!  Grin
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Oft hat ein Seufzer, deiner Harf' entflossen,
Ein süßer, heiliger Akkord von dir
Den Himmel beßrer Zeiten mir erschlossen,
Du holde Kunst, ich danke dir dafür!
Tony Watson
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« Reply #9 on: 14:16:00, 20-08-2007 »

This concert got a rave review in the Guardian, the first Prom this year to get a full five stars, I think. The reviewer (Tim Ashley), a self-confessed Elgar sceptic, said he was "blown away" by it, which "is the highest complement [sic] I can pay it."

I'm a bit of an Elgar sceptic but I missed the concert. I must try to catch a repeat or try Listen Again.
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« Reply #10 on: 14:26:56, 20-08-2007 »

As someone else who's recently performed "The Kingdom" you may be surprised by jsut how much of it you already know.  I'd previously been told how much commonality there was, but it was only having learnt "The Kingdom" that it really dawned on me how much the leitmotifs cross over between the works, at tiems reading ahead on the words I could guess exactly what was goign to happen in the music.
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« Reply #11 on: 14:47:48, 20-08-2007 »

one of those rare and precious occasions when the audience was wholly caught up with the work and their concentration and attention added to the performance.

Well, I was wholly caught up and everyone around me seemed to be paying close attention, too - most of them following the text through the programme (though the couple next to me in the first part had a score and hadn't mastered the skill of turning the pages silently).  It was engrossing.  I don't have a recording of this, and I'm not sure I'd listen to one very often, but it is the kind of piece that, in a live performance, holds your attention so you fail to notice an hour passing - which, I suppose, makes it nearly half as good as the first part of Goetterdaemmerung (joke!!).

Petroc T descibed it as a 'packed' hall which surprised me a bit .

Packed is accurate but perhaps a bit misleading.  We were certainly crammed together in the circle on seat allocation but there were several dozen empty seats together behind and to the sides.  Some of us took advantage of this to enjoy a more comfortable second half - though, as I said, the passage of time and the mild discomfort were not of major importance given the quality of the music and the performance.  Other parts of the hall seemed to have fewer spaces than our side of the circle.

And the organ was in fine voice (though the poor organist must still be having nightmares about one jarring single blast towards the end of an otherwise creditable performance) - looking forward to Bluebeard tonight.

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