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Author Topic: Prom 8 - Mendelssohn/ Brahms  (Read 251 times)
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« on: 20:52:57, 23-07-2008 »

I'm rather enjoying this evening's concert, especially Brahms' 2nd Piano Concerto (even though, through appalling lack of planning, I'd listened to a recording of it only yesterday). I think it's also an interesting idea to play a programme from the 1958 Proms season - it certainly seems as if they had more generous programmes back then. Sometimes nowadays, there can be little more than 70-80 minutes of music offered. I see we've got two intervals on Saturday as well, although I'm not sure why - it's not an over-full programme on paper.

And isn't the 2nd Symphony one of Brahms' sunniest compositions?
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« Reply #1 on: 21:58:26, 23-07-2008 »

Yes, I listened to it as well. Agreed about the 2nd symphony, IGI (probably my favourite). But I found the 2nd concerto very pedestrian indeed. Ploddy tempi, under-rehearsed orchestral playing and a distinct lack of charisma from the soloist. But perhaps I'm spoiled by having been first acquainted with this work through the recording of John Lill's Tchaikovsky competition-winning performance back in the 70s. I don't think it gets better than that. But I find both concertos pretty stodgy and long-winded in general I'm afraid...
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« Reply #2 on: 22:05:13, 23-07-2008 »

I'd agree about the under-rehearsed orchestral playing. Would you think this is due to the heavy demands placed on the BBCSO in the Proms season or possibly due to the length of tonight's programme? I've often wondered whether the BBCSO, which plays a lot of pretty new music, actually has much strength in 19th Century repertoire. I'm enjoying the symphony greatly, though. I've always liked 4 and 3 best, but this is joyously good.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:12:14, 23-07-2008 »

I think that by now it's almost a truism that the BBCSO are constitutionally under-rehearsed! Having said that, they often perform small miracles, such is their sight-reading prowess and hardcore professionalism. But I'm afraid that they are chronically overworked, especially during the Proms, and it often shows rather embarrissingly. I know several players in the orchestra who weep tears of frustration over this - they are a fine band, but are never allowed to shine as they could. The new music portfolio they tackle is in itself daunting enough; but when they have a rare-ish opportunity to show what they can do with standard rep, like tonight, they still don't get enough time to prepare. It's a Catch 22 orchestra.
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« Reply #4 on: 22:14:10, 23-07-2008 »

Wasn't the main reason for Belohlavek's hiring to address the very matter of the BBCSO's lack of grounding in core repertoire? I've never quite understood how he got this far, though: his early Supraphon recordings never struck me as showing all that much promise, and I'm still not totally convinced that he's very special (though I'd love to be proved wrong.)
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« Reply #5 on: 23:55:59, 26-07-2008 »

But I found the 2nd concerto very pedestrian indeed

Yes, I was disappointed too. There was a notable lack of contact between soloist and anyone else, whether that be conductor, orchestra or cello solo (the disadvantage of putting the cello's in the middle of the orchestra is that the piano lid hides the lead cellist from view). This was particularly noticeable in the third movement, where there was a good half second between LV's chord and that of the orchestra.
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