Eruanto
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« on: 00:29:17, 04-08-2008 » |
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Beethoven was very sprightly (the limp, pathetic clapping between movements notwithstanding, but let's not lower ourselves to that level). What is the purpose of those scales at the start of the last movement? After these the last movement was very good (give or take), with rapid strings in thirds exactly in ensemble.
Das Lied von der Erde was very well done, I hadn't heard it live before. A real Heldentenor sound from the tenor. So much stamina. As a whole it complemented my mood at the time very well, and during Der Einsame im Herbst and Der Abschied I was on the very edge of tears, often simply because of the words, but the music as well -
I was impressed by the BBCSSO, but maybe the magic dust that accompanies appearances by favourite conductors had a role to play. The playing clearly didn't have the same magnetism for all in the audience, given the number of loud coughs during Der Abschied.
Ah yes, filling the hall...
There were at least 3 occasions when I thought Cargill was singing far too quietly for the sound to reach the gallery. I wonder how it came over on the radio.
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« Reply #1 on: 12:30:12, 04-08-2008 » |
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I was on the very edge of tears, often simply because of the words, but the music as well Me too. I've avoided the piece for years - thanks Tom Lehrer - but finally listened last night. The ending reminded me of the point in Bach's Cantata 106 where the parts are stripped away until just a single soprano cries into the ether.
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« Reply #2 on: 12:40:22, 04-08-2008 » |
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Ah yes, filling the hall...
There were at least 3 occasions when I thought Cargill was singing far too quietly for the sound to reach the gallery. I wonder how it came over on the radio.
I wondered that, too, Eru! Were you there, or watching on TV? I didn't see you in the queue or in the Hall. In fact I recall asking David whether he'd seen you lately. I loved most things about the performance (as already outlined over on TOP). I was a little overcome during Der Abschied, got all shivery and had to sit down on the floor, though this might just have been tiredness. I thought Cargill was wonderful, though I do find her vibrato can be quite intrusive especially when she is singing loudly.
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« Reply #3 on: 12:58:53, 04-08-2008 » |
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A wonderfully contrasted evening which I watched on BBC4. Early in 'Das Lied von der Erde', I felt that Karen Cargill was 'marking' her performance as my oldie ears kept losing her and, yes, the sound did seem to be a bit boxy. Nevertheless, she is a committed performer and, by the time we reached Der Abschied, she simply soared.
I've been listening to the Klemperer recording this morning: Philharmonia Orchestra with Christa Ludwig and Fritz Wunderlich. Nuff said?
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« Reply #4 on: 13:04:49, 04-08-2008 » |
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I was very impressed with Karen Cargill, whose work I didn't know. Very committed, very beautiful moving singing - I could forgive the vibrato.
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« Reply #5 on: 13:16:02, 04-08-2008 » |
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I've been listening to the Klemperer recording this morning: Philharmonia Orchestra with Christa Ludwig and Fritz Wunderlich. Nuff said?
So have I, having missed last night's broadcast: impossible to imagine the tenor songs being better done than by the incomparable Wunderlich. It sounds as if last night's peformance is definitely one to LA.
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #6 on: 15:43:47, 04-08-2008 » |
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Ruth, i was there, though by that point i was not feeling very sociable at all (for reasons i can't go into). I was in the 4th row, and i'd been to wayne marshall's recital.
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Ruth Elleson
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« Reply #7 on: 15:50:39, 04-08-2008 » |
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Ah, glad you were there. I was at the Wayne Marshall concert too, which I enjoyed very much - I particularly loved the improv piece at the end.
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« Reply #8 on: 22:54:26, 04-08-2008 » |
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I listened to the Mahler on LA, and I agree there was quite a bit vibrato present in moments when it seemed to diminish rather than augment the expressivity. But that aside I still thought they both communicated the poetry and anguish in the work really beautifully at times, especially Karen Cargill, and by the end of Der Abschied I was completely bowled over by the miracle of this music.
And I thought Donald Macleod sounded absolutely shattered as he quoted Britten's beautiful words at the end, as if he was struggling to keep it all together. In fact he hardly sounded like Donald Macleod at all (thinks ... maybe it wasn't D.M.) but whoever it was, I felt completely in sympathy with what I imagined him to be feeling.
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« Reply #9 on: 16:13:50, 22-08-2008 » |
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I don't know Das Lied von der Erde (in fact, I don't know much Mahler at all) so I used my Friday afternoon off to watch my recording of this from BBC4. I really rather enjoyed it, at least enough to want to listen to it again. Which is unusual for me, as I don't tend to get on too well with music that has singing bits
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