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Author Topic: Prom 49: Varese, Rachmaninov + Copland - NYO/Pappano  (Read 369 times)
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« on: 11:24:37, 24-08-2008 »

Did anybody attend this? I watched it on BBC2 and had a pretty good time, at least in the first half. I was pretty surprised at the excellent job that the National Youth Orchestra made of Ameriques: it had obviously been rehearsed pretty thoroughly and the orchestra sounded (and looked) secure. Yes, there were complaints, but they were minor - (e.g., unconvincing trombone group decrescendos, a couple of less than incisive Eb clarinet solos, a siren that sounded not in the least bit scary). Boris Berezovsky was impressive in the Rachmaninov - in fact he seemed the ideal pianist for the work.
The bad news was the Copland 3rd Symphony, which was new to me. It seemed a really flabby work, frankly, and it was presented with considerably less gusto and precision than the preceding pieces. I'm usually quite sympathetic to Copland, but not on this occasion: or perhaps it was just the performance?
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« Reply #1 on: 13:10:24, 24-08-2008 »

I think a lot of discussion of it has gone on here:  http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=3434.0

Do you know who this guy Lindberg is?  He is obviously a man of some substance, as Lady Bracknell would say...
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« Reply #2 on: 14:03:44, 24-08-2008 »

Do you know who this guy Lindberg is?  He is obviously a man of some substance, as Lady Bracknell would say...

Mr W Pedia will tell you something about him, Don B. I don't know any more than that myself, apart from the fact that I find his early (1980s) music rather interesting and everything he's done since then somewhat empty and overingratiating in comparison.
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« Reply #3 on: 16:34:43, 24-08-2008 »

I thought this was another most engaging Prom in a week of dazzling contributions.

Earlier, I listened for the first hour on R3 before switching to the delayed transmission on BBC 2.  Found it difficult to get to grips with the Varese Ameriques but it all came alive for me when I could watch the fascinating interactivity on the telly.   TV now delivers much improved sound quality and box office figures don't seem to have dropped with the more frequent coverage on BBC2/BBC4.       Isn't the time ripe to consider full TV coverage, alongside R3?      I notice that the Olympics have been fully transmitted using the Parliamentary TV Channel while Parliament is in recess.      My only caveat is the ghastly interval coverage using an inset straight out of Satre's Huis Clos.   Grin
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« Reply #4 on: 16:49:55, 24-08-2008 »

Dear Stanley

I felt ashamed for the enjoyment I felt for this Prom!!  Been wrapted over the knuckles, but what care I?
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« Reply #5 on: 17:00:22, 24-08-2008 »

Did anybody attend this? I watched it on BBC2 and had a pretty good time, at least in the first half. I was pretty surprised at the excellent job that the National Youth Orchestra made of Ameriques: it had obviously been rehearsed pretty thoroughly and the orchestra sounded (and looked) secure. Yes, there were complaints, but they were minor - (e.g., unconvincing trombone group decrescendos, a couple of less than incisive Eb clarinet solos, a siren that sounded not in the least bit scary). Boris Berezovsky was impressive in the Rachmaninov - in fact he seemed the ideal pianist for the work.
The bad news was the Copland 3rd Symphony, which was new to me. It seemed a really flabby work, frankly, and it was presented with considerably less gusto and precision than the preceding pieces. I'm usually quite sympathetic to Copland, but not on this occasion: or perhaps it was just the performance?


I also watched on the box, and agree with you autoharp, but you had best stay away from TOP. Not only was the Varèse rubbish (the work, that is) but Berezovsky, in playing marginally faster than the composer did (and only marginally), ruined the piano concerto, or so I am led to believe. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: 17:07:33, 24-08-2008 »

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                  Dear Anty,
           

                                              O divine music
                                              renew our hearts.         

                                              Michael Tippett   King Priam
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« Reply #7 on: 19:06:15, 29-09-2008 »

I didn't know 'Fanfare for the Common Man' was part of a full symphony. Did Copland re-write it as a standalone piece? Because whenever I've heard it in isolation it has sounded like a complete work.

I thought it was an enjoyable performance of the symphony, anyway. Very exciting percusion Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: 19:17:03, 29-09-2008 »

Other way round, IRF: Fanfare first (1942), then incorporated into the symphony (1944-6) (with a key-change that still jars me after all these years).
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« Reply #9 on: 19:18:46, 29-09-2008 »

Aha!

I wonder why he did that?

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