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« on: 18:51:16, 25-08-2008 » |
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Looking forward to this one. Gatti has done a good job reviving the fortunes of the RPO and they did some fine Tchaikovsky discs for Harmonia mundi a few years back. It will be interesting to see the orchestral layout on BBC4 this evening - I seem to recall Gatti favoured double basses in a row along the back when they performed in the RFH, which I think works very well. The Budapest FO used to employ this as well.
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« Reply #1 on: 19:25:40, 25-08-2008 » |
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I have to differ with you on this one. Based on the three or four Gatti/RPO concerts I have heard in recent years, I am not a fan - they always leave me wondering why I went. On the basis that I really do LIKE Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev, this is a night off the Proms for me  |
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« Reply #2 on: 21:48:55, 25-08-2008 » |
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You may well not have thought so, Ruth, but I found the second half (which was all I heard) a treat. A really interesting and exciting Tchaik 5.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:56:39, 25-08-2008 » |
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It was very well received in the hall.
The Prokofiev was slightly violent at times, so I was rather relieved that the brass relaxed for the symphony.
Odd conducting style, and the band wasn't always together, but it seemed to work on the whole.
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« Reply #4 on: 23:49:34, 25-08-2008 » |
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Thoroughly enjoyed this - two works full of adrenalin and Russian passion, which the RPO and Gatti carried off well. Ensemble was not always together in the Prokofiev, but the excitement in the score came across well. I wasn't totally convinced by the final movement of the Tchaikovsky, where Gatti took the latter part of the final movement very slowly only to speed up and finish at a gallop, but the drama was undeniable.
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« Reply #5 on: 06:19:46, 26-08-2008 » |
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Just watched this now having recorded it. The Prokofiev was excellent! The Tchaikovsky was quite good, excellent 1st, 3rd, and 4th movements, but Gatti's tempi changes did not mesh in the 2nd, I'm sure there are plenty of conductors who are aware if they start too slowly at the beginning of the 2nd movement it will ruin the rest.
Abbado's DVD 1994 Berlin Phil concert in Japan contains the greatest Tchaik 5 I have ever heard, he knows just how to do it and the Berliners play unbelievably well.
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« Reply #6 on: 12:56:50, 26-08-2008 » |
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Another fine Prom. All the warmth, passion and pent-up tension in the Prokofiev and Tchai 5 was given with a strong electric charge, too. A friend has phoned to tell me that Gatti and the RPO have a well contrasted recording of Prokofiev's R & J (excerpts) together with the Tchaikovsky fantasy overture, in circulation. Must investigate.
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« Reply #7 on: 13:30:42, 27-08-2008 » |
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Just heard the Tchaikovsky. Very exciting, yes. Although the tempo of the first movement meant that some of the brass dotted rhythms were lost (possibly the RAH's fault), and the end lost a lot of its menace. There were still a few of the ensemble problems which plagued the Shostakovich 10 they did in 2006  , but a lot better certainly. |
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« Reply #8 on: 05:59:06, 28-08-2008 » |
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That 6/8 has to be bang on hasn't it-otherwise it trudges or trips. as you sayeru,dovetailing thosedotted tythmns is a fudge unless the tempo is right.i did a tchaik 5 for an old matewho went on to be assistant to hickox at bbc welsh for a while-perfectly judged tempi and not ott . great shame he didnt get the top job.but teaching now which is good.
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« Reply #9 on: 19:18:03, 29-09-2008 » |
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I couldn't keep my attention on the Tchaikovsky -- I don't know if that's the conductor's fault or the composer's  I liked the Prokofiev, though, so I'll put the blame at Tchaikovsky's feet  (I've almost caught up watching the Proms I recorded! Yay!) |
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