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"BBC Radio 3 devotes the next week to broadcasting the complete works of Tchaikovsky alongside the complete works of Stravinsky, "
why oh why ?
Why not just have a bit more than normal, through the week and some biographical programs instead of this complete and utter stupidity ?
any composer in a non stop way is bloody silly !!!!!!
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eruanto
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« Reply #1 on: 20:42:38, 07-02-2007 » |
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yeh does get a bit silly. how many people are going to get to hear the rarely-heard (or otherwise) pieces broadcast at 2:31am, for example? I remember in the Beethoven experience they even broadcast such a staple as op. 111 in the middle of the night ...  |
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John W
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« Reply #2 on: 20:48:41, 07-02-2007 » |
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Aren't they doing the rare stuff during the day?
I do love the music for Swan Lake. Definitely several of my '100 Best Tunes' are from that.
John W
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reiner_torheit
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« Reply #3 on: 20:55:10, 07-02-2007 » |
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It's the potty Rajar Wright way of dealing with everything - make it into a Marathon! Why treat music with care, when you can have wall-to-wall Bach, round-the-clock Mozart, etc.
It's a bit like those dance-a-thons in the USA of several decades ago... quality isn't important, but whoever keeps dancing the longest "wins".
A more trivialising, anodyne, slapdash way of presenting classical music couldn't be devised. It makes CFM look like a quality broadcaster by comparison.
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They say travel broadens the mind - but in many cases travel has made the mind not exactly broader, but thicker.
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trained-pianist
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« Reply #4 on: 10:42:15, 10-02-2007 » |
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Dont they know that things should be done in moderation. Too much of a good thing can put you off it.
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martle
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« Reply #5 on: 10:49:48, 10-02-2007 » |
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'It's a bit like those dance-a-thons in the USA of several decades ago... quality isn't important, but whoever keeps dancing the longest "wins".
It's a bit like those dance-a-thons in the USA of several decades ago... quality isn't important, but whoever keeps dancing the longest "wins".'
Reiner, there was that great film about this - They Shoot Horses, Don't They? <lifts rifle, takes aim>
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Green. Always green.
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reiner_torheit
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« Reply #6 on: 13:04:55, 10-02-2007 » |
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I had exactly that film in mind when I posted, Martle  And the "Tchaikovsky Experience" does for PIT's music what those dance competitions did for dance  |
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They say travel broadens the mind - but in many cases travel has made the mind not exactly broader, but thicker.
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martle
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« Reply #7 on: 13:14:00, 10-02-2007 » |
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Yes, and 'Rosalind and Paul' are being cast as the partipants in the marathon. Have you seen that (mentioned on the R3 board)? They're keeping a 'diary' of the experience! It's reality radio!
'It's Day 7 in the TchaikExperience pod. Rosalind is showing signs of fading in the second act of Queen of Spades. Paul is toasting a panini before the Nutcracker.' Etc.
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Green. Always green.
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trained-pianist
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« Reply #8 on: 14:21:52, 10-02-2007 » |
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They do play some Stravinsky. Now I am listening to Stravinsky suite on fragments and themes of Pergolesi.
I like it myself, find it entertaining. I don't know much of Stravinsky chamber music. In my time they only started to play it and he was sort of rehabilitated.
What do people think is it good for a composer to base their composition on an old master. I like it.
The only thing I don't understand is Respighi. What I don't understand is do people consider his arrangements like his own compositions.
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eruanto
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« Reply #9 on: 16:32:14, 10-02-2007 » |
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As for Stravinsky, as a musical force he is much harder to understand than Tchaikovsky, because he moved through three completely different areas of music during his life - the style of pieces such as The Rite, then Neoclassicism, and then Serialism.... ( ) |
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #10 on: 09:49:50, 12-02-2007 » |
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You can get it down to three? Don't we need to include a fourth period for early works which belong to the Russian tradition (Symphony in Eb through to Firebird), and a sub-area at least for the Jazz-influenced pieces? And how would you classify the works which fall into the gap between the obviously neo-classical and decidedly serial? There's a period in the 1940s where works such as the Ebony Concerto and the Symphony in Three Movements are outwith the three(four)-fold pattern. The areas overlap in places, too. Apart from 'expect the unexpected', he's a very difficult composer to categorise.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #11 on: 10:35:00, 12-02-2007 » |
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I love that long-eared owl. He is superb. Is it an eagle owl?
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We pass this way but once. This is not a rehearsal!
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« Reply #12 on: 10:56:30, 12-02-2007 » |
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Yes, ebony concerto was not easy listening. It is not jazzy piece.
The easiest Stravinsky is a Firebird ballet music, may be Fairy kiss.
Among musiclolgists Stravinsky is highly thought of composer, but the general public seems to be luke warm toward him.
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #13 on: 11:01:50, 12-02-2007 » |
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Hi Milly,
Yes, he is: a European eagle owl to be precise. He's not the same one I used previously (who was on display in Inverness last week); this one comes from Muncaster Castle in the Lake District, where they have a fabulous collection: I have scores of pictures of him and his pals from a visit last year, and I daresay many of them will make an appearance sooner or later.
Bws,
Ron
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« Reply #14 on: 23:22:01, 13-02-2007 » |
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I caught the opening of Sleeping Beauty tonight, and was struck again by T's originality - what would the first audience have made of that deeply disturbing Introduction? And even, after curtain-up, when the music becomes a little more conventional, the orchestration is always interesting.
Familiarity can breed, as they say...
Here's a strange connection - think of the opening bars of SB and compare them to the opening of Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance No 1 (another piece whose cultural associations over the years have obscured its true originalality!)
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