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ciaccona
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« on: 11:43:14, 13-02-2007 »

Have just rejoined with a new name - it all looks very impressive & perhaps, to me, still living in the 17th. cent., rather complicated, but I expect I'll get used to it.
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« Reply #1 on: 13:16:57, 13-02-2007 »

Welcome ciaccona, (what was your CMoR3 name?)

So we have a pre-baroque expert in the house ? We certainly need one


John W
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ciaccona
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« Reply #2 on: 15:40:01, 13-02-2007 »

John W,

Thank you, although I'm no pre-baroque expert !

I once called myself 'gamba' & am rather besotted with music from the time when such instruments were in common use.

Hope this board does well, after all, it's up to us.

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Little Rootie Tootie
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« Reply #3 on: 17:04:08, 13-02-2007 »

I think gamba means leg in Italian but shrimp in Spanish. Is from viola da gamba that you take your name ?
Tuned very like a guitar with an extra sting on the top. It's funny it doesn't actually have a leg like a cello.
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« Reply #4 on: 17:27:04, 13-02-2007 »

Since cellos didn't have legs then either that's no great surprise... Wink

As far as I know 'gamba' comes from the fact that it rests on the player's legs, not from any attribute of the instrument itself. The viola da braccia doesn't have any arms either...

Welcome ciaccona! One of my favourite forms. I think I'll go and put one on now.
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ciaccona
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« Reply #5 on: 20:03:26, 13-02-2007 »

LTR & Oliver,

Yes, the term 'gamba' is of course linked to the fact that the bass viol sits on the calves of the leg. In my case, this is a somewhat awkward procedure, having had both hip joints replaced.  I now rest it on a small stool. I am only a beginner, in fact I seem to have been a beginner for years !  There are smaller versions, the most common being the tenor & the treble which rests in your lap. The bass viol comes in many sizes from a large 'consort' bass, sometimes with seven strings, to a 'division' viol, perhaps the smallest of the true violas da gamba & is used for the most demanding music. A 'division' being a set of variations in which the performer shows just how good he is !  The accompanying picture with LTRs message is of Christopher Simpson ( 1605-1669 ),  & is part of his publication ' The Division Violist, ' a remarkable treatise on playing the instrument & still highly regarded today.

The sound of a consort of viols is quite unique. There is a melancholy character associated with gut strings. Because early string instruments had lower &  flatter bridges, it enabled the player to achieve 'double-stopping' more easily, the practise of playing chords across the strings,  & so achieve the effect of accompanying himself. A group of from four to six players has a very close texture, but  does provide a listening experience like no other group of instrumentalists.

Here endeth the lesson !!
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« Reply #6 on: 20:14:45, 13-02-2007 »

Oo no, the lesson's just beginning...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lawes-Consort-Parts-Hesperion-Savall/dp/B000065VX6
http://www.amazon.com/Christopher-Tye-Lawdes-Deo/dp/B00004TVFI/sr=1-4/qid=1171397473/ref=sr_1_4/102-7199838-5428142?ie=UTF8&s=music
http://www.amazon.com/Purcell-Fantasias-Viols-1680-Hesp%C3%A8rion/dp/B00004R7PD/ref=pd_sim_m_3/102-7199838-5428142

They're not all what you'd call bargains nowadays, I see... some of those recordings were actually relatively low-price incarnations when they were issued but have since become a bit scarce.
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ciaccona
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« Reply #7 on: 20:39:47, 13-02-2007 »

Oliver,

Next week, ' This Week's Composer' is devoted to music from the time of Elizabeth I.
My Yamaha hard drive will be hard driven !

Have you heard  recordings by the viol consort Phantasm ?  I'm slowly building - up my collection of CDs by them.
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« Reply #8 on: 20:56:04, 13-02-2007 »

Gamba

I have the Phantasm Gibbons cd that won a Gramophone award a couple of years ago. Thanks for reminding me, I haven't played it for a while and will dig it out tomorrow. What of their others do you recommend ?
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ciaccona
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« Reply #9 on: 23:10:12, 13-02-2007 »

BobbyZ,

I would go for the Phantasm CD of the Purcell Fantasias for viol consort.

A CD that has given me perhaps more pleasure than any other is on the Virgin/Veritas label & is called
' Pieces pour deux basses de viole'.  The two bass viol players being Jerome Hantai & Kaori Uemura. This is a real gem & comprises works by Couperin, Sainte Colombe, Locke & a  'division' by Christopher Simpson. I never tire of playing this disk.  Also great for converting those who thought they didn't like this kind of music !
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