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« Reply #15 on: 11:45:28, 12-12-2007 » |
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Just what is Classical Collection coming to? As if it was not bad enough having the occasional bit of 'jazz' included there, next Tuesday we are to get a "Biguine" and a "Bossa Nova". I dispair of this sort of 'dumbing down'. 
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« Reply #16 on: 11:56:30, 12-12-2007 » |
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Sounds to me as if you ought not to harp on about it, Bryn. (But thanks for the heads-up!  )
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« Reply #17 on: 12:04:12, 12-12-2007 » |
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Sounds to me as if you ought not to harp on about it, Bryn. (But thanks for the heads-up!  ) Well, as for harping on ...
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« Reply #18 on: 16:17:43, 12-12-2007 » |
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Just what is Classical Collection coming to? As if it was not bad enough having the occasional bit of 'jazz' included there, next Tuesday we are to get a "Biguine" and a "Bossa Nova". I dispair of this sort of 'dumbing down'.  Thought you might be stringing us along there for a moment, Bryn  Thanks for that.
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« Reply #19 on: 17:07:02, 12-12-2007 » |
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Just what is Classical Collection coming to? As if it was not bad enough having the occasional bit of 'jazz' included there, next Tuesday we are to get a "Biguine" and a "Bossa Nova". I dispair of this sort of 'dumbing down'.  Thought you might be stringing us along there for a moment, Bryn  Thanks for that. The 'track' that precedes datpair, ("On the virtue of flowers"), is currently spinning chez 'Monty'. I think I might just spin a 'live' recording of Mr. Smith's 9th Piano Concert, of which "On the virtue of flowers" is but the first of three extended 'movements', later on.
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« Reply #20 on: 22:58:03, 12-12-2007 » |
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Just noticed the start of TTN tonight:
1.00am Varèse, Edgard (1883-1965): Ionisation Members of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Bruno Maderna (conductor)
1.08am Bartók, Béla (1881-1945): Violin Concerto No 1 Yehudi Menuhin (violin) Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Pierre Boulez (conductor)
1.29am Beethoven, Ludwig van (1770-1827): Symphony No 8 in F Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Pierre Monteux (conductor)
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« Reply #21 on: 23:17:38, 12-12-2007 » |
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Just noticed the start of TTN tonight
Thanks for that, Ron. For once I had not checked. Will set the scheduler to save that lot.
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« Reply #22 on: 23:48:27, 12-12-2007 » |
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I had to laugh when I was watching University Challenge once some years ago. The music starter was obviously Ionisation by Varese, it was a percussion piece and had the trademark sirens in it. The students suggested Shostakovich and Paxman dismissed them peremptorily with "No, no, it's Stravinsky's Rite of Spring." 
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« Reply #23 on: 07:38:36, 13-12-2007 » |
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 A heads-up fot Ron and others interested in Georgian* music... World Roots on Sat (15 Dec) is the first of two progs of Georgian music, including the strange liturgical polyphony in which major 2nds are recognised as consonant intervals  The trailer,promised that both progsmwere recorded 'on location' in Georgis, proffering the juicy carrot of 'new stuff' to be heard... time to set-up you recording software, I think?  Gamharjobat! *viz from Sakartvelo, the country of Georgia in the Caucasus... and not from the reign of Kimg George, nor from the US State to which Otis Redding left on a midnight train either../
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House" - Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #24 on: 08:45:45, 13-12-2007 » |
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Thanks for that: I'm already aware of these two episodes. Furthermore, Late Junction this week has been playing the odd bit of material from the sessions which will supply the two WR programmes, and very juicy they sound, too. As yet there's no way of telling whether these bits will be repeated in the main programmes, or are miscellaneous extras: either way, I'd think it's highly likely that every scrap of music broadcast will be preserved in the Dough Archives...
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« Reply #25 on: 15:51:56, 15-12-2007 » |
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Just noticed that BBC4 is running the 1982 RSC stage production of Nicholas Nickleby over the next couple of weekends, in two-hour episodes from 19.00 - 21.00 Sat and Sun. Music - a considerable amount of it - was by Stephen Oliver, possibly the most prolific of all British opera composers, though almost forgotten now. Very different in approach to your average TV adaptation, it's worth catching for its brilliant stagecraft and wonderful cast.
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« Reply #26 on: 16:45:44, 15-12-2007 » |
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Yes, Ron, I shall set the DVD-R to see this production again. Originally staged by the RSC, at The Aldwych Theatre, tickets were at a premium. Thinking about it a few years later, including a revival at The Old Vic, I'm convinced that the production was the last time when audiences from the middle class Home Counties filled West End theatres. Prices for, say, the Upper Circle used to be 5/- and 7/6d and remained consistent when the changeover to decimal currency was established in 1971 and for most of the decade. "Phantom of the Opera" followed within a few years in the 80s and the price spiralling really took off as the audience constituency for the West End gradually changed to the tourist trade. Gone were the days of £1 top price seats for Preview performances in Shaftesbury Avenue - and I still have ticket stubs for side seats in the amphi at Covent Garden for this price.
A most engaging production of "Nicholas Nickelby", seen over two evenings, or matinee and evening performance at the weekend, with Roger Rees staking his future before later taking residence in America. I was also amused to recall David Threlfall - a new kid on the block at the time - outstanding as the handicapped Smike, rather indulging his incapacity by taking a long time to cross the stage - couldn't visualise how he would cope with the long walk to Portsmouth!
Agog to see how it looks in 2007.
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« Reply #27 on: 08:17:55, 16-12-2007 » |
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I would love to see this again. It was really quite a spectactle for an assortment of reasons as mentioned by Ron and Stanley. David Threlfall as Smike was quite something to behold! I see that the production is being revived as a London production for a limited run. Very tempting, but should I just hang on to my memories of the original? Hmm.
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« Reply #28 on: 09:17:12, 16-12-2007 » |
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should I just hang on to my memories of the original? Hmm.
It's very hard to revive a production that has such strong memories for the audience - especially since none of the original cast will be returning to their roles. I'd say their best chance is to forge a new show based on the good ideas of the old one... otherwise they are condemned to be mere impersonators of the original cast.
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« Reply #29 on: 10:21:43, 16-12-2007 » |
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Remembering that it was a Trevor Nunn RSC production, and that it laid the tracks for Les Mis, it might be constructive to consider what has happened to that over the years: it's been simplified, the costume colours have been brightened, the average age of the company has dropped by about a third, and it's now populated by stage-school alumni rather than an ensemble of serious actors who had worked on the classics for years, strengthened with a core of actor-singers with similar experience in musicals of an older variety.
I'd guess that the casting for the new production will be 'identikit' - i.e. the it will be cast using this recording, and whoever looks most like the original will get the part - and that much of the direction will be secondhand recreation rather than a back-to-basics rediscovery of the original concept. I hope I'm wrong, but....
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