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« on: 10:54:28, 07-01-2008 » |
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Everybody knows that Gounod used Bach's Prelude in C from Well Tempered Clavier for his Ave Maria.
Recently I came accross two other examples like that. This Summer I heard Bach/Moscheles Preludes from Well Tempered Clavier with Moshceles melody for cello over Bach's text.
A few days ago I heard Beethoven/Bowen Moon Light Sonata (1 movement) with added immitation poliphony also written for cello I think, but played on viola.
Do you know other examples like that?
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autoharp
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« Reply #1 on: 11:04:33, 07-01-2008 » |
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Hi there t-p! The Moonlight Sonata will take quite a few tunes at a pinch.
Try Summertime, for instance.
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« Reply #2 on: 11:10:48, 07-01-2008 » |
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autohaarp,
This is a little different, because composer uses some ideas for his starting point, not the whole composition.
I was so surprized by what you said. I never notice any similarities between The Moonlight Sonata and Sumertime, but now I see that it is true. It made me laugh.
Do you know any other examples like that?
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stuart macrae
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« Reply #3 on: 12:00:49, 07-01-2008 » |
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Speaking of the Moonlight Sonata, I think Prokofiev quotes part of it (on trombones!) in his 5th Symphony (3rd movement). I don't think it's a starting point for the piece though.
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« Reply #4 on: 12:23:54, 07-01-2008 » |
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My favourite use of the Bach Prelude in C comes in Arvo Pärt's Credo (1968).
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iwarburton
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« Reply #5 on: 12:39:04, 07-01-2008 » |
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Saint-Saens' Carnival of the Animals is full of quotes, including of pieces by Offenbach, Berlioz and Rossini--not mention his own Danse Macabre.
Ian.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #6 on: 13:36:11, 07-01-2008 » |
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Kurt Weill's song Von Potsdam Unter Dem Eichen (which describes how Nazi Stormtroopers broke-up the funeral procession of a soldier) has a peculiar quote from THE MAGIC FLUTE at the end of it... the accompaniment suddenly shoots off into "Ein Maedchen Oder Weibchen", Papageno's little song about how really any kind of female company would cheer him up. I'm still trying to puzzle-out the significance of this quote, though...? It's done in march-time with an oompah beat, as though it's the March to which the Stormtroopers arrive?
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
- Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #7 on: 14:30:44, 07-01-2008 » |
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Schubert's Death and the Maiden emerges fleetingly at the end of Richard Barrett's Vanity. The question of how early on it figured consciously in the compositional process is possibly one only the composer would be able to answer.
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« Reply #8 on: 17:50:59, 07-01-2008 » |
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Think Shostakovitch quoted Beethovens Moonlight Sonata in his Viola Sonata as well as other composers including Wagner i think-A kind of nostalgic farewell,,,,,
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martle
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« Reply #9 on: 18:49:16, 07-01-2008 » |
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...and then there's the plethora of self- and other quotations and references in Shosters' 15th symphony.
I'm very fond of the affectionately parodic use Stravinsky makes of Schubert's Marche Militaire in the Circus Polka.
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« Reply #10 on: 18:51:32, 07-01-2008 » |
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Think Shostakovitch quoted Beethovens Moonlight Sonata in his Viola Sonata as well as other composers including Wagner i think-A kind of nostalgic farewell,,,,,
the 15th Symphony makes ample use of Wagner not to mention a difficult-to-overlook appearance of the William Tell overture. (looks like I'm just amplifying martle here) |
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inert fig here
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« Reply #11 on: 20:59:19, 07-01-2008 » |
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Isn't there a bit of of The Magic Flute quoted in Hugh Wood's Symphony?
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« Reply #12 on: 21:15:07, 07-01-2008 » |
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Must mention Schnittke. In fact reading this thread prompted me to go and put his 1st Symphony on. I'm hopeless at this sort of thing - ie guessing what piece it is when you hear a little snatch - but I do recognize the transition into the last movement of Beethoven's 5th  What all the other quotes/references are though,  |
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richard barrett
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« Reply #13 on: 21:21:28, 07-01-2008 » |
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The question of how early on it figured consciously in the compositional process is possibly one only the composer would be able to answer.
A composer writes: from the start. |
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roslynmuse
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« Reply #14 on: 21:41:23, 07-01-2008 » |
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Must mention Schnittke. In fact reading this thread prompted me to go and put his 1st Symphony on. I'm hopeless at this sort of thing - ie guessing what piece it is when you hear a little snatch - but I do recognize the transition into the last movement of Beethoven's 5th What all the other quotes/references are though, I think a bit of Samantha got in here too... |
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