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If you want to discourage your kids from wearing these, try installing a giant magnet in the house and chortle a little as they are swept through the air towards it whenever they walk in the door.
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If you're a real original, you'll feel no need to look outlandish.
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« Reply #5462 on: 13:56:12, 10-04-2008 » |
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Ho! I am probably being a little unpleasant, but, in my humble opinion, self mutilation says to me that we are in the realm of lowish self esteem and confidence.
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I do feel this shouldn't be allowed and that there should be some legal framework. Am I being unreasonable?
Ouch! I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. Two things I wonder about - (a) did the establishment ask for your son's age? (b) what did he answer? I'm not an advocate of ID cards, but they could well be useful in cases such as this. |
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« Reply #5464 on: 14:48:42, 10-04-2008 » |
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Matthew is a very outgoing and popular boy, so I hope it isn't lack of self esteem. However he is seen as a bit of a neek because he did his GCSEs a year early and is completing his AS levels in July, so perhaps he just wants to be more like his friends?
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I'm not in favour of ID cards either. It seems they didn't ask his age - he is bigger than his dad. and I'm 6' 1", so he looks a lot older than 16! My feeling is they should have asked.
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Matthew is a very outgoing and popular boy, so I hope it isn't lack of self esteem. However he is seen as a bit of a neek because he did his GCSEs a year early and is completing his AS levels in July, so perhaps he just wants to be more like his friends?
That sounds exactly like my son (the one with the earring, not to mention various other rebellious things in his teens). In fact, when he grew up I asked him why, when he was so obviously intelligent, he had done such silly things, and his reply was, "Well, I knew I was a swot deep down, and I wanted to seem not to be". He went on to do extremely well academically, and now has what could be described as a "top job". |
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« Reply #5466 on: 15:36:40, 10-04-2008 » |
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That's interesting, sounds very similar doesn't it? Hopefully the novelty will wear off soon:)
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« Reply #5467 on: 17:59:27, 10-04-2008 » |
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In some ways, i am for ID cars, those official ones that the goverment are wanting us to have. But with all those IDs that we have, surely thats enoough??
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« Reply #5468 on: 18:05:42, 10-04-2008 » |
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But with all those IDs that we have, surely that's enough??
You'd think so, but if you don't drive, as I don't, it can sometimes be rather difficult to prove your identity. I went for a job last week, at my own school, where I've taught for over six years, and had to take a ridiculous amount of paperwork to prove that I am who I say I am - original certificates of degrees, A level and O level results, passport, birth certificate, General Teaching Council membership card and certificate, CRB check certificate, upper threshold certificate. Who on earth would pretend to be me just so they could be Acting Deputy for a year?!!!!! |
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« Reply #5469 on: 18:23:53, 10-04-2008 » |
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That's interesting, sounds very similar doesn't it? Hopefully the novelty will wear off soon:)
But: so what if it doesn't? Maybe more important is that the novelty of it for you wear of soon. Ho! I am probably being a little unpleasant, but, in my humble opinion, self mutilation says to me that we are in the realm of lowish self esteem and confidence.
I don't think that's a very well-defined area. Do you view all piercings in this light? I don't have much time for jewellery myself, but I can appreciate the aesthetic considerations that might lead to getting them. I don't mind too much, so long as people decide for themselves. A small piercing in a relatively harmless place seems to be the most non-destructive exhibit of rebellious behaviour that I can think of off hand. If you're a real original, you'll feel no need to look outlandish.
So if you see someone who seems to look consciously outlandish, you will presume them to be without a shred of 'real' originality? That sounds quite superficial to me. I do think the craze for tatto0s and body piercing is unfortunate. They are going to look jolly silly once the flesh begins to sag post 35 or earlier. Indeed: one should let one's atrophying, flabby appendages flap about unblemished. That's clearly a far superior situation. (although even such a pinnacle of masculine good looks as D Beckham Gent has sadly OT'd on his arms in my opinion.) He doesn't do too much for me in general. But yeah, such hodge-podge collections are gnerally gotten for more symbolic than directly aesthetic value, I think. (I should probably issue a disclaimer of some sort here...) |
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I am getting used to the idea but my reservations remain. It doesn't seem right that a minor can walk in off the strreet and have his lip punctured without having to produce ID or have a parent present. The aesthetics of it aren't the issue.
I agree that as an act of rebellion - if that's what it is - it seems fairly minor, but reading some of the horror stories about those who have it done in less than professional conditions is enough to make you sick. At that point a minor act of rebellion becomes something else entirely.
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« Reply #5471 on: 19:09:06, 10-04-2008 » |
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But with all those IDs that we have, surely that's enough??
You'd think so, but if you don't drive, as I don't, it can sometimes be rather difficult to prove your identity. I went for a job last week, at my own school, where I've taught for over six years, and had to take a ridiculous amount of paperwork to prove that I am who I say I am And, if I may chip in here. The new Money Laundering Rules if you want to sell your property. You are now required to produce either a driving licence or a passport plus utility bills to prove identity. Now, we have had an old lady in her 80s, wishing to sell the family home to move into sheltered accommodation. Never had a driving licence, never had a passport in her life. But - she has to have one or the other - so she has to spend a considerable amount of money to get a passport otherwise no Estate Agent will put her house on the market. Totally ridiculous. |
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« Reply #5472 on: 19:23:57, 10-04-2008 » |
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That's surely discrimination, Anty. I bet she'd win the money back in court (although it would probably not be worth the bother).
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« Reply #5473 on: 19:33:21, 10-04-2008 » |
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That's surely discrimination, Anty. I bet she'd win the money back in court (although it would probably not be worth the bother).
No Marty, that's the law. You have to produce a document with a current picture (driving licence or passport) take it in to your Estate Agent, get it certified that you are that person in the picture. No way out. No pictorial evidence = no sale. Also, if you buy any item over £10,000 at auction - say an oil painting or a Massey Ferguson tractor - same rules - pictorial ID if you please! That's why I am in favour of just one ID Card. If you ain't got nothing to hide what's the problem? |
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I am getting used to the idea but my reservations remain. It doesn't seem right that a minor can walk in off the strreet and have his lip punctured without having to produce ID or have a parent present.
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