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« Reply #8355 on: 17:34:00, 03-11-2008 » |
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A criticism often levelled by doctors at alternative/complementary practitioners, I am thinking particularly of a Report funded some years back by The King's Fund, is that precisely because practitioners spend time talking with patients and discussing their circumstances, it is impossible to evaluate the therapies properly because of the 1 to 1 input and 'the therapeutic relationship', as though this somehow devalues the treatment. So, on the one hand, it's unlikely the treatment works because it's a load of unproven hokum, or the other hand, well we can't tell if it works or not because there's too much talking and hand holding going on. I've been dealing with this attitude from doctors for years now and I cannot tell you how it makes me. Particularly when I've seen positive results from my own brand of 'hokum' , where drugs didn't resolve the problem.
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« Reply #8356 on: 17:39:25, 03-11-2008 » |
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Yes, very funny, I'm sure, time_was_then, but it neither answers my question (which I admit was addressed to Richard) nor reduces my aforementioned ignorance...
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« Reply #8357 on: 18:02:05, 03-11-2008 » |
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I suffer from on and off sinus problems. I have had homeopathic treatment. Maybe it is psychological but I don't see how after taking the tablets and I can feel my nose starting to run and clear that I have induced that myself?
I know acupuncture is a different case but I went to see my GP and a locum was there. I explained the problem and he asked if I would like to try acupuncture, I said yes and he said lie down and I'll get the needles. Result? Half an hour later the difference was amazing.
I think the different branches of medicine can work together
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #8358 on: 18:12:30, 03-11-2008 » |
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I suffer from on and off sinus problems. I have had homeopathic treatment. Maybe it is psychological but I don't see how after taking the tablets and I can feel my nose starting to run and clear that I have induced that myself?
I know acupuncture is a different case but I went to see my GP and a locum was there. I explained the problem and he asked if I would like to try acupuncture, I said yes and he said lie down and I'll get the needles. Result? Half an hour later the difference was amazing.
I think the different branches of medicine can work together
I had a course of acupuncture once for migraine. It didn't work for that, but strangely, I never suffered from hay fever again afterwards and I used to get it really badly. There are more things in heaven and earth......
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« Reply #8359 on: 18:19:51, 03-11-2008 » |
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Indeed there are Milly and I like to think I have an open mind.
My cousin is a reflexologist. She is a trained nurse (SRN) and was for many years an NHS physiotherapist. Believe me, she is no New Age Drippy Hippy. She had to move to Bristol due to husband's job and she had always had an interest in reflexology so trained in that. As far as I understand it, relflexology is rather like acupuncture as it is pressure points. She also then qualified as an iridologist. I'm not too sure about that although they say the eyes are the window of the soul.
I am also not too sure about shakras and ear candles but don't know enough about them to comment.
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« Reply #8360 on: 18:30:23, 03-11-2008 » |
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In my time I've had psoriasis rosa, urticaria, scabies, and eczema (atopic and (I think) discoid). My psoriasis didn't itch, the urticaria just required me to forego underwear and nightwear for about 6 months (it coincided with a period of eyelids and lips becoming suddenly and unaccountably swollen), the eczema isn't too bad and as long as I remember to use shower gel it doesn't really bother me. The scabies though was minging. Particularly since they were resistant to the medication that the doctor gave me first. My hands looked like those belonging to some kind of gross Star Trek monster. You really wanted to know all that didn't you?
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'is this all we can do?' anonymous student of the University of Berkeley, California quoted in H. Draper, 'The new student revolt' (New York: Grove Press, 1965) http://www.myspace.com/itensemble
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« Reply #8361 on: 18:34:33, 03-11-2008 » |
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Having felt dodgy on Saturday evening, then felt a lot better yesterday, I now have a stinking, rip-roaring, crepulant cold
How are you feeling now Martle? Did you see research at Birmingham University proved that the best relief for a stinking cold was a stonkingly mega-hot curry or even a chillie? The lashings of garlic, ginger, pepper and chillies etc., are more effective than any Lemsip type drink in producing a good flow of mucus, and the more mucus you produce the more you flush the virus out and weaken it. It also produces a beneficial sweat. Apologies for all those eating their dinner but I think hh's post was more graphic medically!
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« Reply #8362 on: 18:42:51, 03-11-2008 » |
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the best relief for a stinking cold was a stonkingly mega-hot curry Excellent. This thread is endlessly informative. hh, are you sure that you weren't being experimented on by evil alien doctors? That sounds awful.
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« Reply #8363 on: 18:46:25, 03-11-2008 » |
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How are you feeling now Martle? A little better, thanks Anty. I slept most of the afternoon. Did you see research at Birmingham University proved that the best relief for a stinking cold was a stonkingly mega-hot curry or even a chillie? No surprise there. AndyD is one of their chief advisers at Birmingham.
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« Reply #8364 on: 18:57:52, 03-11-2008 » |
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How are you feeling now Martle? A little better, thanks Anty. I slept most of the afternoon. Did you see research at Birmingham University proved that the best relief for a stinking cold was a stonkingly mega-hot curry or even a chillie? No surprise there. AndyD is one of their chief advisers at Birmingham. Martle, I was going to say of course it was Birmingham Uni and a new chain of Balti Houses were about to open ....... but that would be cynical!!! So it was AndyD?? But tis true. If I am struck down with a cold it is a 6 fresh chillie job and kitchen roll at the ready. Ginger is wonderful, and so warming. Also very good for morning sickness, travel sickness and general nausea.
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« Reply #8365 on: 18:59:42, 03-11-2008 » |
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hh, are you sure that you weren't being experimented on by evil alien doctors? That sounds awful.
It wasn't all at the same time (though the medication for the scabies irritated the eczema) you'll be pleased to know. I just have rubbish skin, but not as bad as my sister's...
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« Reply #8366 on: 19:10:50, 03-11-2008 » |
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In my time I've had psoriasis rosa, urticaria, scabies, and eczema (atopic and (I think) discoid). My psoriasis didn't itch, the urticaria just required me to forego underwear and nightwear for about 6 months (it coincided with a period of eyelids and lips becoming suddenly and unaccountably swollen), the eczema isn't too bad and as long as I remember to use shower gel it doesn't really bother me. The scabies though was minging. Particularly since they were resistant to the medication that the doctor gave me first. My hands looked like those belonging to some kind of gross Star Trek monster. You really wanted to know all that didn't you?
Flippin' eck! You've been through the mill and then some!
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« Reply #8367 on: 19:15:39, 03-11-2008 » |
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If I am struck down with a cold it is a 6 fresh chillie job
Perhaps GPs could now offer us a 6 fresh chillie jab to ward off colds?
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« Reply #8368 on: 19:17:16, 03-11-2008 » |
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6-chilli jobs/jabs, onion and garlic soup... I bet everyone's very popular at work.
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« Reply #8369 on: 19:23:02, 03-11-2008 » |
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6-chilli jobs/jabs, onion and garlic soup... I bet everyone's very popular at work.
But you wouldn't go to work after that little lot. would you, Marts? Well, s'pose it depends how much you loathe respect your colleagues Hope you feel a lot better soon
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