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« Reply #8385 on: 22:24:01, 03-11-2008 »

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« Reply #8386 on: 22:28:04, 03-11-2008 »



Hello possums!
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« Reply #8387 on: 22:41:25, 03-11-2008 »

So instead of "via" they have to say what? "By way of"? Is that any clearer to people for whom English is a second language? (Besides which "via" must be used in many other languages - I know it is in Dutch for example). And who can think of a concise non-Latinate way of saying "vice versa"?

What if doctors became affected by this? What would they call obscure body parts and diseases?

Where's TombeaudeCooperman when you need him?
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« Reply #8388 on: 22:42:02, 03-11-2008 »

Anty, I got the timing wrong. Try about 1 Hour 43 minutes and 30 seconds into the iPlayer version of today's Today Programme.
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« Reply #8389 on: 22:47:31, 03-11-2008 »

Is that any clearer to people for whom English is a second language? (Besides which "via" must be used in many other languages

Can't speak for Dutch but French and German positively teem with bits of Latin...
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« Reply #8390 on: 22:54:14, 03-11-2008 »

Can anyone think of a sentence where e.g. might be confused with egg? Oh, I've thought of one.

"The sandwiches had various fillings, e.g. ham or cheese."

I'm confused Undecided.
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« Reply #8391 on: 22:57:33, 03-11-2008 »

Is that any clearer to people for whom English is a second language? (Besides which "via" must be used in many other languages

Can't speak for Dutch but French and German positively teem with bits of Latin...

I don't believe either uses "via" though.
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« Reply #8392 on: 23:02:05, 03-11-2008 »

Is that any clearer to people for whom English is a second language? (Besides which "via" must be used in many other languages

Can't speak for Dutch but French and German positively teem with bits of Latin...

And I believe in both France and Germany Latin is much more widely taught in schools than it is here.
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« Reply #8393 on: 23:04:31, 03-11-2008 »

So clearly the problem is rather one of confusing people for whom English is an only language.  Cool
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« Reply #8394 on: 23:12:43, 03-11-2008 »

As in: How bona to vada your jolly old eek!

What brings you trolling along 'ere, Mr 'Orne?

I didn't know youngsters still knew about all of this.

As a teenager I heard Jules and Sandy on Radio 4 (only recently renamed from being the Home Service) and I didn't have a clue what they were on about (although I remember them being quoted by one very knowing boy at school in a form lower then myself.) 

It was only when I got to London it was patiently explained to me by an Older Friend, who had been born and bred in Bethnal Green without the benefit of a direct grammar school education (although his opinion of Joan Sutherland was trenchant.  I owe a lot to him, including my copy of the Graduale Romanum.)
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« Reply #8395 on: 23:23:23, 03-11-2008 »

people for whom English is a second language?
That wouldn't by chance be you, boyo, would it?!

Your other points well noted and agreed with. We all are probably familiar with the old verset that runs
Latin is a language
As dead as dead can be
It killed the ancient Romans
And now it's killing me

(not that I have the faintest recollection of its origins) but there can surely be no doubt that the far-reaching and long-standing influence of Latin on English-speaking and many-other-language-speaking people is unshak(e?)able (not sure if that includes the Welsh)...
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« Reply #8396 on: 08:37:48, 04-11-2008 »

East Sussex's county town is Lewes and Bonfire Night! This is where all manners of things take place, inlcuding the burning of the Pope(a traditional event stemmig I suppose from anaxaition of England from Rome). Quite a night but tiring.
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« Reply #8397 on: 08:57:30, 04-11-2008 »

I suppose it's no worse than burning Guy Fawkes. All very unpleasant if you think about it, though as children we didn't, of course. Perhaps Hallowe'en is gradually replacing it?

Many fewer fireworks this year so far - not that that's a grumpy rant, more Happy Room.
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« Reply #8398 on: 09:26:17, 04-11-2008 »

This is where all manners of things take place, inlcuding the burning of the Pope

Not literally, I should point out for the edification of non-Sussex members.
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« Reply #8399 on: 09:42:27, 04-11-2008 »

Cheese and soup.  Actually quite glad for the comte de savoie that came with my very watery minestrone in a mountain hut last summer.  Only thing with a bit of oomph in the whole meal.

As you were

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