I'm new to TOP and new here but can see why TOP would split. The mix of Blimps and normal musicians/music lovers is highly unstable. I’m surprised there's not more blood on the wall.
You might be interested to have a look at
this thread which was started soon after r3ok was set up.
Richard,
Thanks for that.

If I understand correctly: R3 management destroyed an online community in February 2007, with redesign, new posting rules and heavy modding. They did a U-turn in June 2007, reversed the redesign, relaxed the posting rules, and told the mods to pull their horns in. Correct?
This is telling:
posted by Chris - Radio 2 (U6737247) **, 5 Hours Ago
We appreciate that not every editorial decision the BBC makes will be to the liking of all our audience and people will want to express their views, but we don’t believe that message boards are the most effective way of giving general feedback about programmes and stations. There are a few reasons for this.
The first is that the message boards are not a formal BBC 'feedback route'. Because they are an open forum, people sometimes think that they are a good way to feedback to us, but decision-makers and executives don’t routinely read BBC message boards. They do read the complaints and comments that are delivered by the formal BBC feedback routes, and you'll always get a response by using them.
The BBC staff that read the message boards most frequently are the hosts. Usually they are staff who have other responsibilities (ranging from making programmes, building websites, or managing other community areas) and are not best placed to respond on behalf of programme teams or station management.
Again, the proper contact and feedback routes will usually get to the decision-maker directly and more quickly.
Finally, it is worth pointing out that it is usually the people that aren't happy that shout the loudest; it's always like this with feedback (when was the last time you were impassioned to the point of writing a strongly worded letter of praise?). If we allow message boards to be used for feedback about programmes, it tends to create a very negative vibe on the board, with a disproportionate amount of complaints and negative comments. We want our boards to be as inclusive and welcoming as possible, to engage as many people as possible, and many people are put off using message boards if the tone is relentlessly negative or they are full of repetitive complaints or conjecture.
I hope this helps clarify the situation.
Chris
I’d say R3 management didn’t know how to cope with a strong online community, so the instinct of some was to destroy it. I’ve seen the same when a trade union gets going in a non-unionised workplace. Some managers literally go bonkers. They’re so used to power flowing downwards through a strict hierarchy that when it starts flowing upwards (before collective bargaining structures are established or the union chased out) their world turns upside down. I suspect the old R3 cyber-community had that effect on some BBC managers.
This is odd:
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Each R3 forum page -- there are thousands of them -- is tagged to keep out search engines. BBC management don’t want the message board debate indexed by Google. I wonder why?
The other point of tension is paid moderators on BBC employment contracts. When push comes to shove they’ll
always do what their bosses tell them. They’ll act in the management’s interests, not the community’s. They’ll enforce their employment contracts or face disciplinary action.
On most forums power works differently. Mods have control of the ban and censorship buttons but they’re accountable, in part, to members. It’s usually bloody, but a bad mod can be got rid of (by members) a stupid ban/censorship policy changed (by members) and site structure modified (by members).
It looks as if you faced the situation in February 2007 of mods acting on instructions from above, which they were contractually obliged to obey, and members had no immediate control over management policy, mod behaviour or site structure. Given that background it’s amazing you won and the policy was reversed. Or would the policy have been reversed without this site? I doubt it. Everything the mods tried to censor on TOP was simply posted here, so the censorship was subverted and R3 management made to look silly (in Private Eye no less

).
It's a shame there's no dedicated modern music forum. Has that been lobbied for? What's the official argument against?
Philidor
11-Plus