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Author Topic: Diet, Booze, and Musicianship  (Read 693 times)
thompson1780
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« on: 10:21:07, 15-07-2007 »

I've just finished a week of pit work for an opera.  Two things struck me in particular....

How tricky it is to eat well when you are busy between 6.30 and 10.45 - how do pros cope?

And overcoming the urge for beer as soon as each performance finished.  Is there something in-built about performing then pub?

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« Reply #1 on: 10:31:35, 15-07-2007 »

Tommo, I can never do a show properly unless I've had a meal beforehand, usually at about six. I hate the times when we do weekend matinees back-to-back so that there's no proper time for food before the second show. As for the booze thing, it's at least half social, but in a lot of cases it's also misreading the body's signs of dehydration; performances are a stressful and sweaty business, and too many people just don't drink anything like enough water...

But all power to you for the amount of music you get to perform, on top of a real job, too.
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« Reply #2 on: 10:56:41, 15-07-2007 »

I'm not what you'd call a seasoned performer, but I really don't like to do a concert on a full stomach, with the unfortunate consequence that I then find myself having to find something (anything) to eat late at night in an unfamiliar city where there are always more opportunities to drink than to eat. A few days of this is enough to give the feeling that something has gone badly wrong with one's nutrition. The late Derek Bailey insisted that when on tour any hotel he stayed in had to have a restaurant, so that he'd only have to leave the building in order to play the gig.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:04:19, 15-07-2007 »

I'm not what you'd call a seasoned performer, but I really don't like to do a concert on a full stomach, with the unfortunate consequence that I then find myself having to find something (anything) to eat late at night in an unfamiliar city where there are always more opportunities to drink than to eat. A few days of this is enough to give the feeling that something has gone badly wrong with one's nutrition.
I have exactly the same situation - never have an appetite just before a concert, and eating just beforehand can also make one sleepy. Important to eat a good lunch on such a day (if a concert's in the evening). Finding late-night eats can be a real pain in many places - even not that easy in some parts of London after a certain time.
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« Reply #4 on: 11:20:23, 15-07-2007 »

There can't be many things in life better than being able to perform music, but as you say, it does rather interfere with life itself. After many years at it myself, I have given it up for regular mealtimes, sleep and the pleasures of the pub for longer than just a swift one after the show. Now all I want to do next is give up driving (which interferes with the drinking) and then give up shopping (except for online CD shopping, of course). I can feel a renunciation thread coming on...
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« Reply #5 on: 11:26:04, 15-07-2007 »

Can't possibly perform on either a full or an empty stomach, so what works for me is some yoghurt and a piece of fruit - preferably a banana.
Pace Ron, the post-performance drink is well-nigh irresistable!
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« Reply #6 on: 11:37:23, 15-07-2007 »


Pace Ron

What an unconventional performing partnership that might turn out to be. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 12:00:16, 15-07-2007 »

Well, I'd pay good money, Ron!  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: 13:21:23, 15-07-2007 »

Not really relevent as I am not actively performing but when I gave my first concert (aged 15) I solved the not eating beforehand problem by not eating for 3 days before (due to nerves!)
Several years later, I gave several lunchtime recitals so I just ate my lunch after that but didn't eat too much (the nerves were much less of a problem by then)
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« Reply #9 on: 15:30:10, 15-07-2007 »

Eating before is a no no for me, as I find it just makes me sleepy during performance.  I may well try martle's yoghurt idea next gig though!

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« Reply #10 on: 15:31:47, 15-07-2007 »

Bananas are particularly good, as martle says. I've found they, together with plenty of water (though not so much as to make nature call!) have served well through the performances of Finnissy marathons and the like! Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 18:04:40, 15-07-2007 »

On opening nights I always try to eat a decent breakfast, because there's rarely any time to eat anything until the show goes up anyhow.. it's a race against time to get it all done. 

The very worst thing is a long tour of a show, especially in small towns where there's only one performance.  Invariably this means (i) get up at 6am (ii) drive to the new venue from the old one (iii) get-in the entire show (iv) get everything onto flybars (v) set the lights as best you can (vi) take a technical run at the show (vii) run any dicey or tricky moments, special effects, awkward exits and entrances etc (viii) let the singers get the feel of the acoustic (ix) top-and-tail numbers that depend on scenery-changes etc (x) actually do the performance (xi) get all the scenery down as quickly as possible and get-out (xii) get it all packed into the truck.  Luckily I no longer stage-manage shows :-)  The cast also expect that you will organise supper - cooking it yourself if necessary in some locations!  I entirely second Ian's point about finding places to eat late in the evening - I remember Truro, Tregony and St Austell as being the worst in that respect.
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« Reply #12 on: 21:00:10, 15-07-2007 »

In the Bournemouth Symphony (this from my then teacher) the Cor anglais player once had a rough time in the Franck D Minor slow movement occasioning the (sole repeatable I guess) lyric to his line '...and sausages for tea'.Last weekend mit posaunen I succumbed to a burrito twixt rehearsal and show with similar effect-subtle distending of the embouchure and hiccupy breathing. Got through ok but I will give the bananas a try next time. The problem for me is getting round to breakfast after a late night prior, when late night groceries dont often sell anything edible.
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« Reply #13 on: 21:36:08, 15-07-2007 »

Back in 1972(?), Birgit Burghart and I solved the problem by performing Chris May's "Roman Striking" as a repast, on stage. Others engaged in the same performance chose to use musical instruments.
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« Reply #14 on: 10:48:28, 16-07-2007 »

Bananas are particularly good, as martle says.

...well, they eat enough of them between games at Wimbledon and the like. Those guys should no a thing or two about energy and focus...  Smiley
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