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Author Topic: New four part series on Sacred Music on BBC4, begins 21/3, 20:00  (Read 975 times)
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« on: 17:21:51, 18-03-2008 »

New four part series on Sacred Music on BBC4, begins 21/3, 20:00, presented by Simon Russell Beale http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=friday&filename=20080321/20080321_2000_4544_6645_60&service_id=4544
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« Reply #1 on: 19:41:53, 18-03-2008 »

 Thank you, David.     I've made an instant diary entry for this promising series.
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« Reply #2 on: 19:52:44, 18-03-2008 »

I too will be there, as long as it's on iplayer.  I have been going to bed with The Westrminster Mass
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« Reply #3 on: 11:51:23, 19-03-2008 »

I only spotted it by chance, and instantly set the recorder.  Incidently, it is preceded by a repeat of the Mozat Requiem from the 2006 Proms (Herreweghe).
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« Reply #4 on: 11:57:39, 19-03-2008 »

And as well as the second episode in the series the following Friday, there is an associated concert by the Sixteen broadcast on Easter Sunday evening ( BBC4 20.30 )
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« Reply #5 on: 13:21:48, 19-03-2008 »

Unless thye angle is the hist of church objections and the sociology of early bands, I can't quite see the point of 'sacred' music considered seperately. But if its a hook for great performances, fine-at least its another exportable arts doc that'll cross-subsidise some others.
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« Reply #6 on: 09:10:40, 21-03-2008 »

The Mozart Requiem and the Sacred Music* programme overlap with the St John Passion on Radio 3. Mark Padmore, of whom I am a mad fan, is in both. I can't record from BBC4, so I'll have to listen to the St John on Listen Again, but it's not the same. I suppose I should be grateful for the (rare) embarrassment of riches.

*I've just mistyped that as Scared Music.
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« Reply #7 on: 11:34:48, 21-03-2008 »

Mary, as Anty was saying you can now go to BBC4 online and 'watch again' for 7 days-you use the same (Real) player as Listen Again. You can also download and keep for 30 days.I had some buffering longeurs last time, but the radio player has got better so hopefullythe video too.

I remember Padmore M when he used to work at the Barbican library, very unassuming and helpful guy, and he seems a very thoroughgoing singer-I like his 'ready meal' analogy-Padmore wants slow food in his singing- which made it past the censors at R3.
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« Reply #8 on: 18:49:18, 21-03-2008 »

Just listening to the beginning of the St John, and am absolutely shocked by the choir. Enlightened or not, the sopranos sound like shaky old ladies.
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« Reply #9 on: 19:17:36, 21-03-2008 »

..... I have been going to bed with The Westminster Mass
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« Reply #10 on: 20:39:19, 21-03-2008 »

I watched the Requiem with my grandson.  I was explaining the different voice pitches and showing him the more unusual instruments.  He could identify most of them except for the more obscure woodwind.  I told him about Mozart and the circumstances under which it came to be written.

I love 7 year olds!  They're like sponges ready to absorb information.  He asked what language it was so I was able to explain about the Catholic religious works.  We spent some quality time today, it's been wonderful.  Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: 21:24:17, 21-03-2008 »

That's lovely, Milly! Children that age learn so quickly. It will go in, and even if he goes through other musical stages, it will still be there somewhere and may re-emerge when he grows older (i.e. past teenage), as it has with one of my sons.

I see you and I both want Emma Kirkby's voice, over on TOP. Some hope, in my case Sad.
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« Reply #12 on: 21:34:51, 21-03-2008 »

Did anyone else see the Sacred Music programme?

I thought it was outstanding - I'm no expert in gothic music and I feel I have learned an awful lot - the presentation was intelligent, clear and gimmick-free, there was no talking-down, the interviewed experts really had something to say and the performances by a group of singers from the Sixteen were powerful and evocative, and made one want to rush off and listen to more. 

Harry Christophers referred to the emergence of polyphony as a "big-bang moment", to be compared with the first performance of Le Sacre du Printemps; Simon Russell Beale's narration talked about the shock and awe caused by the emergence of this new music.  As I was watching I couldn't help reflecting on some of the discussions we've had on these boards over the last couple of days, and the fact that, nearly a thousand years ago, the Christian community (which at that point in history was the same as the intellectual community) must have been having the same sort of debate. 
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« Reply #13 on: 21:36:15, 21-03-2008 »

Does anyone know what those half-triangle shaped clarinets were?
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« Reply #14 on: 21:39:15, 21-03-2008 »

I see you and I both want Emma Kirkby's voice, over on TOP. Some hope, in my case Sad.

I sound more like Florence Foster-Jenkins than Emma Kirkby.  Cry
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