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Author Topic: 20th century string quartets (not Bartok or Shostakovich)  (Read 2674 times)
TimR-J
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« Reply #60 on: 11:04:24, 28-08-2007 »

I think it might be - I know there's a University of Manchester connection in there.
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« Reply #61 on: 20:17:29, 10-11-2007 »

I enjoyed hearing the Janacek String Quartet No.1 on CD Review this morning and must admit that I did not know it before. I see that it is usually paired on disc with the 2nd Quartet and there appear to be some strong performances to choose from. Any advice?
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« Reply #62 on: 20:31:40, 10-11-2007 »

I enjoyed hearing the Janacek String Quartet No.1 on CD Review this morning and must admit that I did not know it before. I see that it is usually paired on disc with the 2nd Quartet and there appear to be some strong performances to choose from. Any advice?
By some distance in my opinion:



(I listened to about half-a-dozen recordings a year or two back when I was getting to know these pieces.)
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« Reply #63 on: 21:03:00, 10-11-2007 »

Absolutely - the Hagens are fantastic in these pieces.

(The Pavel Haas Quartet aren't bad either, at least in no. 2 - I have no. 1 waiting on the desk for me to turn my attention to it. You do have to get them spread across 2 discs but the Haas quartets aren't bad either.)
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« Reply #64 on: 21:28:40, 10-11-2007 »

Regretably, it would appear that DG no longer have that Hagen disc in their catalogue. One or two places list it as available "new", but at a price I consider prohibitive. I will await a future re-issue, I think. Whatever happened to the recording in which a viola d'amore was used in the 2nd quartet?
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« Reply #65 on: 22:09:20, 10-11-2007 »

Many thanks, gentlemen - I see the Hagens are available on iTunes @ £7.90. Also available, on disc, are versions by the Skampa (of whom I recall opilec thinks highly), the Belcea, Brodsky, Panocha and a recent Talich Quartet recording, all available at decent prices.
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« Reply #66 on: 22:16:22, 10-11-2007 »

I can report now that the Pavel Haas Quartet's recording of no. 1 together with Haas's quartets 1 and 3 has been receiving my attention in the last few minutes (or at least a fair proportion of it) - if you don't mind shelling out for two discs you get not just the Janáčeks in the only performances to match the Hagens in the Sudden rankings, but three other very fine quartets by a Janáček pupil - the kind of thing I imagine would please the sort of person who might be paying a visit to this thread...
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« Reply #67 on: 22:26:32, 10-11-2007 »

three other very fine quartets by a Janá?ek pupil

Hmm. How pupillaceous is he actually?
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« Reply #68 on: 22:28:04, 10-11-2007 »

 I, too would also opt for the Hagen Quartet on DG and Janacek's impassioned utterances also have a bonus with the addition of the Hugo Wolf's Italienische Serenade, albeit travelling in a different direction.

I also have an affection for the two Janacek quartets played by the Guarneri Quartet in their recording on Philips Classics CD in 1998 although it disappeared from the catalogue fairly smartish, possibly due to the shortfall in playing time of 41' 20".
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« Reply #69 on: 22:41:15, 10-11-2007 »

three other very fine quartets by a Janá?ek pupil

Hmm. How pupillaceous is he actually?

How strong are the traces of Janáček you mean? Pretty strong but that's certainly not all that's in the mix. The 3rd quartet is from 1938. Since Haas was Jewish and living in Czechoslovakia and died in 1944 you can probably fill in the biographical details... Sad
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« Reply #70 on: 23:06:05, 10-11-2007 »

Oh Shit!

As you were
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« Reply #71 on: 23:40:41, 10-11-2007 »

How strong are the traces of Janá?ek you mean? Pretty strong but that's certainly not all that's in the mix. The 3rd quartet is from 1938. Since Haas was Jewish and living in Czechoslovakia and died in 1944 you can probably fill in the biographical details... Sad

His sad fate I knew about, but I'm pretty sure I haven't heard any of his music, possibly having subconsciously avoided it because of association with another composer with the same surname whose music I can't stand.

Actually I don't know any music that sounds anything like Janacek, and I find it unlikely that there exists very much, given that he had such an individual way of going about everything. So I'm quite intrigued now.
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« Reply #72 on: 23:44:37, 10-11-2007 »

His sad fate I knew about, but I'm pretty sure I haven't heard any of his music, possibly having subconsciously avoided it because of association with another composer with the same surname whose music I can't stand.

Surely you cope OK with Handel? Cheesy

I think you'd get something from the string quartets; they're the only things of his I've heard. They're not quite up there with Janáček perhaps but (a) what is? and (b) neither would Janáček be if he'd died at 45... Sad
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« Reply #73 on: 23:52:35, 10-11-2007 »

Surely you cope OK with Handel? Cheesy

And indeed Taverner, though not without a certain effort having to be made to erase images like this from my mind:



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« Reply #74 on: 01:42:16, 11-11-2007 »

Actually I don't know any music that sounds anything like Janacek
I'm not making any claims for quality (nor am I making a listening suggestion, at least not for you, Richard, as I think I know what your response would be Wink) but the music of Mr Alexander Goehr sounds really quite a lot like Janacek at times.

Georg Friedrich: I rather liked a couple of things I heard once about 3 or 4 years ago, but then I heard something else (quite long) on CD which was dire. I think I have a disc of 20th (or are they 21st?) century string quartets by him somewhere in the 'still shrink-wrapped' pile. Maybe I should give it a spin.

As for His Censeredness Sir John, I was actually listening to his new violin concerto this very afternoon on the train, more out of a sense of duty than anything (it's had some unexpectedly good reviews and I wanted to hear it for myself). It's certainly not without unexpectedly nice touches, some of them quite precisely imagined, although I think in the end I'd say they were outweighed by the longueurs (and a couple of simply inept passages).
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