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Author Topic: 20th century string quartets (not Bartok or Shostakovich)  (Read 2674 times)
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« on: 12:49:44, 13-08-2007 »

There is an alarming number of 20th century composers, Bartok and Shostakovich apart, who composed 6 string quartets or more. Most of these sets we don't hear about. It could be that we don't need to, but there must be a decent set somewhere. Examples of such composers include

Martinu
Villa-Lobos
Van Dieren
Glazunov
Reger
Myaskovsky
Wellesz
Milhaud
Haba
Dessau
Norgaard
Sculthorpe
Isang Yun
Holmboe
Simpson
Tansman
Krenek
Rosenberg

Wouldn't mind hearing a few by Tansman for a start.

Any comments, anybody ?
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« Reply #1 on: 12:56:13, 13-08-2007 »

also:

Maxwell Davies
David Matthews
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« Reply #2 on: 13:11:55, 13-08-2007 »

As typical, Dish recommends highly the String Quartets of Krenek. Particularly the 5th...
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« Reply #3 on: 13:14:35, 13-08-2007 »

maconchy.
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« Reply #4 on: 13:16:24, 13-08-2007 »

Not to mention Maconchy and no doubt many others too. Elliott Carter's nearly there...

Quite a few of those mentioned have at least been recorded, although perhaps the most inacessible of them all in both recorded and performed form are the van Dieren, the first of which was admired by Schönberg.

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« Reply #5 on: 13:19:22, 13-08-2007 »

Since we're on "cycles" I cannot recommend the Krenek "cycle" -- it isn't particularly strong as a corpus, and the individual efforts wouldn't gain anything from a relentless side-by-side Krenekfest.
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« Reply #6 on: 13:22:26, 13-08-2007 »

Here's an obscure one, but there always seems to be someone around who knows...

On the first Sunday morning of September 1981 on Radio 3 (I remember because of where I was going in the car at the time), part of a new string quartet was played. It was a tape that someone (not an established composer) had just sent in and they found it interesting enough to give it some air time. Some complimentary remarks were made by the presenter.

I just wonder whether anything became of that piece or the person who wrote it.
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« Reply #7 on: 14:55:13, 13-08-2007 »

Elliott Carter's nearly there...
Yes, if only the lazy sod would finally pull his finger out...
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« Reply #8 on: 15:00:25, 13-08-2007 »

Elliott Carter's nearly there...
Yes, if only the lazy sod would finally pull his finger out...
I'm reliably informed no No. 6 is now intended.
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« Reply #9 on: 15:35:07, 13-08-2007 »

Elliott Carter's nearly there...
Yes, if only the lazy sod would finally pull his finger out...
I might have dropped him a line quoting you on that, but for (see below)...

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« Reply #10 on: 15:35:59, 13-08-2007 »

Elliott Carter's nearly there...
Yes, if only the lazy sod would finally pull his finger out...
I'm reliably informed no No. 6 is now intended.
Great! So no need to convey Richard's admonition of laziness after all...

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Alistair
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« Reply #11 on: 15:36:16, 13-08-2007 »

I got a CD of Bowen's second and third string quartets last week.  I didn't *really* get into them too much, I don't think; I was disappointeded that they weren't more Bowen-esque Wink  I'll get over that in a few weeks though I imagine (learning to love? probably).

I actually got the Villa-Lobos brilliant classics box set a few years ago.  I didn't like them too much at the time, but now I think they're quire beautiful; they're all quite spacious and lovely Wink
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« Reply #12 on: 18:38:18, 13-08-2007 »

Quite a few of those mentioned have at least been recorded, although perhaps the most inacessible of them all in both recorded and performed form are the van Dieren, the first of which was admired by Schönberg.

I've heard hardly very few by any of the composers I've mentioned (hence the enquiry - the list didn't try to be exhaustive) - except for van Dieren's 1st which I know quite well. It's long and pretty way out, even for 1912. I'll report at greater length on the van Dieren thread some time.
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« Reply #13 on: 19:16:14, 13-08-2007 »

Since there was a movement from the new Dutton recording of Stephen Dodgson's 7th quartet played on CDR on Staurday, it looks as if he belongs on the list, too...
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« Reply #14 on: 19:19:41, 13-08-2007 »

on Staurday
Is that a day of the Scottish week? Tongue

I'm afraid, incidentally, that I was slightly distracted from the Dodgson by the 'Look, it's not horrible modern music' spiel which preceded it ...
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