The Radio 3 Boards Forum from myforum365.com
07:46:12, 02-12-2008 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Whilst we happily welcome all genuine applications to our forum, there may be times when we need to suspend registration temporarily, for example when suffering attacks of spam.
 If you want to join us but find that the temporary suspension has been activated, please try again later.
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  

The Radio 3 Boards > The Music Boards > Music Through The Ages > 21st Century > They are not geniuses - are they?
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5
« previous next »
  Print  
Author Topic: They are not geniuses - are they?  (Read 1183 times)
trained-pianist
*****
Posts: 5455
« Reply #45 on: 02:38:19, 17-09-2008 »

Indian composer
Logged
Sydney Grew
Guest
« Reply #46 on: 10:10:12, 17-09-2008 »

We suppose Sir Winston's funeral in 1965 could despite the frigid weather be described as an occasion for a kind of rejoicing or jubilation, but it was certainly not fun.
Logged
pim_derks
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 1518
« Reply #47 on: 10:23:56, 17-09-2008 »
Quote from: Sydney Grew on 01:53:08, 17-09-2008
Quote from: pim_derks on 12:49:34, 16-09-2008

Excuse our ignorance but who is it Mr. Derks?

It's Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck (1562 – 1621).

His portrait used to be on the 25 guilders banknote:



Roll Eyes
Logged
"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
time_is_now
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4653
« Reply #48 on: 12:49:26, 17-09-2008 »
Is 'vijf en twintig' the only way of saying 'twenty-five' in Dutch, Pim?

My grandma used to tell the time like that: 'five and twenty past two', 'five and twenty to three', etc. ...
Logged
The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
pim_derks
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 1518
« Reply #49 on: 13:08:19, 17-09-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 12:49:26, 17-09-2008
Is 'vijf en twintig' the only way of saying 'twenty-five' in Dutch, Pim?

Yes.

Quote from: time_is_now on 12:49:26, 17-09-2008
My grandma used to tell the time like that: 'five and twenty past two', 'five and twenty to three', etc.

Interesting! Naming numbers in English can be difficult for Dutch people because we say "five and sixty" for 65. When we here someone say "sixty-five" we usually think the number will end with a six.
Logged
"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
time_is_now
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4653
« Reply #50 on: 13:25:11, 17-09-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 13:08:19, 17-09-2008
Naming numbers in English can be difficult for Dutch people because we say "five and sixty" for 65. When we here someone say "sixty-five" we usually think the number will end with a six.
Yes, actually now that I come to think of it German does the same. At first I didn't notice that the Dutch example was simply like this, because unlike in German it's written as three separate words.

My grandma only used it for telling the time, though: I'm pretty sure she said 'twenty-five' in any other context.

Another thing she said which always threw me for a minute was to use 'yet' in the sense of 'still': if she bought me a pair of slippers for Christmas, she'd ask me a few months later 'Have you got those slippers yet?', and my first reaction was always to answer: 'Yes, of course I have, they arrived on Christmas Day!'
Logged
The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
ahh
****
Posts: 266
« Reply #51 on: 17:04:23, 17-09-2008 »
The recipe never calls for twenty four blackbirds baked in a pie t_i_n!
Logged
insert favoured witticism here
martle
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 6685
« Reply #52 on: 17:09:34, 17-09-2008 »
Quote from: ahh on 17:04:23, 17-09-2008
The recipe never calls for twenty four blackbirds baked in a pie t_i_n!

Yeah, but that's just the sort of lazy prosody that lead John Lennon to be happy with this:

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

 Roll Eyes
Logged
Green. Always green.
Ron Dough
Admin/Moderator Group
*****
Posts: 5133



WWW
« Reply #53 on: 17:10:45, 17-09-2008 »
Quote from: ahh on 17:04:23, 17-09-2008
The recipe never calls for twenty four blackbirds baked in a pie t_i_n!
Though that's at least partially related to a scansion issue, surely?
Logged
martle
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 6685
« Reply #54 on: 17:12:35, 17-09-2008 »
Kerbang!  Cheesy
Logged
Green. Always green.
pim_derks
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 1518
« Reply #55 on: 19:42:29, 18-09-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 13:25:11, 17-09-2008
Yes, actually now that I come to think of it German does the same. At first I didn't notice that the Dutch example was simply like this, because unlike in German it's written as three separate words.

My grandma only used it for telling the time, though: I'm pretty sure she said 'twenty-five' in any other context.

Another thing she said which always threw me for a minute was to use 'yet' in the sense of 'still': if she bought me a pair of slippers for Christmas, she'd ask me a few months later 'Have you got those slippers yet?', and my first reaction was always to answer: 'Yes, of course I have, they arrived on Christmas Day!'

Nowadays we don't write "vijentwintig" as three seperate words, but a banknote is an official thing so I think that's why they used three seperate words.

Yet and still are both "nog" in Dutch. I can imagine it must be quite confusing for foreigners to find out the difference between "nog" en "nog". Undecided
Logged
"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
richard barrett
*****
Posts: 3123
« Reply #56 on: 19:46:22, 18-09-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:42:29, 18-09-2008
I can imagine it must be quite confusing for foreigners to find out the difference between "nog" en "nog". Undecided

Although "nog" in the sense of "still" is often "nog steeds" isn't it? (Ha! I'm getting a bit of practice in Flanders this week.)
Logged
pim_derks
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 1518
« Reply #57 on: 19:52:29, 18-09-2008 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 19:46:22, 18-09-2008
Although "nog" in the sense of "still" is often "nog steeds" isn't it? (Ha! I'm getting a bit of practice in Flanders this week.)

Yes, but sometimes people don't add "steeds" to "nog". Few people would ask "Is dat boek nog steeds verkrijgbaar?" ("Is that book still available?"). Most people would ask: "Is dat boek nog verkrijgbaar?"
Logged
"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
Antheil
*****
Gender: Female
Posts: 3206
« Reply #58 on: 19:55:37, 18-09-2008 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 19:46:22, 18-09-2008
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:42:29, 18-09-2008
I can imagine it must be quite confusing for foreigners to find out the difference between "nog" en "nog". Undecided

Although "nog" in the sense of "still" is often "nog steeds" isn't it? (Ha! I'm getting a bit of practice in Flanders this week.)

Off topic.  Was there not a tv series by Oliver Postgate called Noggin the Nog?  What was the Dutch for that
Logged
Reality, sa molesworth 2, is so sordid it makes me shudder
richard barrett
*****
Posts: 3123
« Reply #59 on: 20:06:38, 18-09-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:52:29, 18-09-2008
Few people would ask "Is dat boek nog steeds verkrijgbaar?"

OK, I have to say these are subtleties beyond my command of the language. So how would you say "is that book available yet?" Would that have to be something like "is dat boek nog uitgekomen"?
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5
  Print  
« previous next »
 
Jump to: