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« on: 12:43:47, 09-07-2007 »

There was one thread about noise-cancelling headphones, but thought people might have something to say about their preferred headphones in general; I know I had some sony noise-cancelling headphones a few years ago when the technology was in it's infancy.  Definitely not worthwhile there.  They were uncomfortable (really don't like the more "internal" types of audio-listening equipment.  And generally, I think; I don't mind background noise too much in general.

Anyway, I had bought a pair of really nice headphones before Christmas (PX 200)



Which were not fantastically expensive, and the sound quality was just super.  However, the connection to the plug broke shortly after Christmas, and within a month the right ear stopped working.  Had lost my receipt, so.  I still occasionally ask people if they have a soldering iron on them that they might be able fix them.

Anyway, though they weren't expensive for a long-term investment, given how much music I listen to; I couldn't afford to be blowing sixty quid every two months on headphones!  I had backups anyway, which I used for a week until *they* broke, so I managed to find another pair of old earphones in my room, which I was using until I lost those last week. So I went into town today and bought the cheapest pair of Sennheiser headphones I saw (the PX-10):



They feel reallllly light in comparison to the PX200 ones I had before and, indeed the rather minimal earphones I was using last week.  The way they fit is pretty unusual, but not in any way uncomfortable (unlike the PX200 ones which used to make my ears hurt a little if I wore them for too long Sad  ).
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« Reply #1 on: 12:53:10, 09-07-2007 »

As far as I can tell, Sennheisers (in all sorts of models) offer the best value for money. Most of my headphone listening is done on the move, so they're always being shoved in and out of bags; although Senns aren't the most robust things on the market, the occasional spend of £30 on a new pair when the  wires inevitably get pulled out is bearable.

I've got some of these at the moment:



But used to have a pair like these (but not quite this model), and would go back to them in a shot (v comfortable, and really nice sound for the price):

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« Reply #2 on: 12:58:04, 09-07-2007 »

I've never regretted taking up Ron's recommendation of the Sennheiser HD650. Not cheap (I think you can get them from about £170) and not at all for on the move. But also damn marvellous (especially once you've played them in a bit).

I was pleased but not surprised to see them sweep the field in a recent Diapason review (11 casques électrodynamiques haut de gamme: "...Un casque modèle").
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« Reply #3 on: 13:02:14, 09-07-2007 »

As far as I can tell, Sennheisers (in all sorts of models) offer the best value for money. Most of my headphone listening is done on the move, so they're always being shoved in and out of bags; although Senns aren't the most robust things on the market, the occasional spend of £30 on a new pair when the  wires inevitably get pulled out is bearable.

You don't try securing them faster with tape or take any other such indecorous measures?

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But used to have a pair like these (but not quite this model), and would go back to them in a shot (v comfortable, and really nice sound for the price):



Look very nice; not exactly portable though!

I've never regretted taking up Ron's recommendation of the Sennheiser HD650. Not cheap (I think you can get them from about £170) and not at all for on the move. But also damn marvellous (especially once you've played them in a bit).
Certainly not in a position where I could listen to music through such a device in good conscience at the moment; but I imagine it must be lovely.

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I was pleased but not surprised to see them sweep the field in a recent Diapason review (11 casques électrodynamiques haut de gamme: "...Un casque modèle").
Google translates this for me as

11 top-of-the-range electrodynamic helmets: “… A model helmet".


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« Reply #4 on: 13:17:47, 09-07-2007 »

I've never regretted taking up Ron's recommendation of the Sennheiser HD650. Not cheap (I think you can get them from about £170) and not at all for on the move. But also damn marvellous (especially once you've played them in a bit).

I was pleased but not surprised to see them sweep the field in a recent Diapason review (11 casques électrodynamiques haut de gamme: "...Un casque modèle").

Another advantage thereto being the replaceable cables: I've not had to do this for the 650s yet, though the rather older 600s (which get rather more field use and incidentally have rather thinner cables) are now on their second lead. The cans themselves are very resilient.
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« Reply #5 on: 13:49:58, 09-07-2007 »

I've never regretted taking up Ron's recommendation of the Sennheiser HD650. Not cheap (I think you can get them from about £170) and not at all for on the move. But also damn marvellous (especially once you've played them in a bit).
Certainly not in a position where I could listen to music through such a device in good conscience at the moment; but I imagine it must be lovely.

Perhaps the conscience can cope with the idea of paying for a good pair of headphones but skimping on a speaker setup one will rarely be able to fang seriously anyway... Living where I do (in a block of flats where I hear plenty from the neighbours so I assume they hear plenty from me too) that's what I did.

Another thing is that I suspect you do have to have an OK headphone amp driving them; I don't know how they would work just plugged directly into an ipod...

Ron (or anyone), I've heard some people have replaced the HD650 cables with better cables again - know anything about which ones are good?
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« Reply #6 on: 14:09:31, 09-07-2007 »

I've decided not to explore that route until I need to replace anyway, Ollie, and I'd need to be able to audition the cables in situ over a decent period before I made up my mind in any case. It's important to point out that cables are a horrendously contentious area in hi-fi, and that spending more doesn't always bring concomitant improvements. There was a vogue for silver cables a few years back which totally mystified me: I hate the hard-edged 'shouty' sound they tend to create. Carbon fibre: now there's a different story, though very expensive; even though I have only one set of Mr van del Hul's ground-breaking examples, I have indulged more recently in some of his less expensive hybrid experiments, some of which even utilise silver whilst avoiding its usual sonic signature. He's a very clever man, and most of his products are worth serious consideration.
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« Reply #7 on: 17:25:00, 09-07-2007 »

I've never regretted taking up Ron's recommendation of the Sennheiser HD650. Not cheap (I think you can get them from about £170) and not at all for on the move. But also damn marvellous (especially once you've played them in a bit).

They really are wonderful, particularly for classical music.  They have a bit of a rolloff in the high-end, which rather bothers me and is particularly problematic for recording and editing applications.

   

I'm quite fond of the beyerdynamic DT880.  I borrowed a pair on the first recording project I did and liked them so much I bought my own.  They're a bit bright, frankly, but they're brilliant for applications that demand a bit of precision (they are, for my money, the top recording/editing headphones one can buy, though they're perhaps a bit unforgiving if one simply wants to lounge on the sofa and listen).  (A friend described them as "so good you can tell what the cellist ate for breakfast.")

   
 
For anyone looking for headphones (in any price range or for any application), I highly recommend HeadRoom.  They have a section of the website set up to help decide b/t the hundreds of models they sell, and it's loaded w/ information.  http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-application/ 

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« Reply #8 on: 17:28:27, 09-07-2007 »

  Sennheiser HD 650       Thanks, Ron.      

My hearing is diminishing.   I wonder why?     Sad  

I have extremely tolerant neighbours; a semi-detached bungalow; and seldom hear a peep out of them.    However, The Proms are nigh and  I need to up-the-ante for orchestral works    Your pointers most welcome.

Bws         Stanley
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« Reply #9 on: 17:31:00, 09-07-2007 »


Ron (or anyone), I've heard some people have replaced the HD650 cables with better cables again - know anything about which ones are good?

http://www.headphone.com/products/cables-and-adaptors/headphone-cable-upgrades/ has a wide selection of unbelievably expensive cables (some that, um, cost as much as the damn 650s do in the first place?).



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« Reply #10 on: 18:02:03, 09-07-2007 »

 Sennheiser HD 650       Thanks, Ron.      

My hearing is diminishing.   I wonder why?     Sad  

I have extremely tolerant neighbours; a semi-detached bungalow; and seldom hear a peep out of them.    However, The Proms are nigh and  I need to up-the-ante for orchestral works    Your pointers most welcome.

Bws         Stanley

Stanley, greetings,

Aaron is absolutely correct about the Sennheisers having a slight roll-off at the top, and yes, for monitoring applications there are more detailed cans. However, for protracted listening the 650s work brilliantly, revealing yet never fatiguing, and despite their size, very comfortable indeed. Their cost is similar to that of a decent small pair of speakers, though, so if you're looking for something less expensive, give me a ball-park figure of what you'd like to spend, and I'll happily point...

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« Reply #11 on: 18:50:13, 09-07-2007 »

For a less expensive model (and, crucially, one that will work w/ a computer or portable mp3 player w/o an external headphone amplifier (which is most certainly not the case for the HD650s or the DT880s)), I really like these:

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-budget/150-300/sennheiser-hd-555.php

I bought a pair for a family member a few yrs ago and they really are quite wonderful for the price.  Great sound (though again w/ the characteristic Sennheiser roll-off in the high-end), extremely comfortable, durable, etc. 
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« Reply #12 on: 08:11:12, 10-07-2007 »

I have always liked the sound provided by the various Sennheisers I have used over the years, but my big gripe against all of them has been precisely the connectors at the headphone end of the cable. I have yet to get a pair where those connectors maintain the signal consistently. All have had problems of intermittent crackling.
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« Reply #13 on: 18:02:44, 14-07-2007 »

My trusty HD600s have served me well for very nearly a decade now and are one of the best value hi-fi purchases I've ever made for all the reasons listed above.

However, it is worth investing in a better cable, and a couple of years ago I replaced mine with the Zu-Mobius (not all that cheap, but much more robust) and there was a marked improvement.

Their website is at http://www.zuaudio.com but the section about cables doesn't seem to be working at the moment.

A number of companies make replacement cables, though I haven't tried any of the others. Annoyingly their distribution in the UK tends to be terrible.

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« Reply #14 on: 19:17:41, 14-07-2007 »

Yet another contribution to the Sennheiser lovefest, in honor of the fact that I just got my HD 570's back from the repair shop; I knew they were fragile enough that dropping them a few times will dislodge an internal connection that kills the right side, but I dropped them anyway, with predictable results.

They aren't too expensive, require no preamp (although they do expose the limitations of the one I route my turntable through), and to my non-sound-quality-attuned ears (I've never owned any audio equipment other than a series of portable stereos with acceptable sound quality at best) they sound fantastic.

One of these days I will get a proper component system.  As it is my turntable (which isn't entry-level but isn't "audiophile" either by any stretch) cost about twice as much as my CD changer/cassette/speaker box, which is a mite embarrassing.
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