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Author Topic: Contemporary music for Breakfast  (Read 3306 times)
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« Reply #60 on: 00:00:10, 15-04-2007 »

Wasn't Tippex a composer? - or have I got that wrong...(?!)...

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Alistair the Unprepared

Yes, often mistakenly paired with Prit-ten...
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« Reply #61 on: 03:54:06, 15-04-2007 »

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Isn't there a Volker Heyn piece w/ a suspended piano/pianist?
The title is Did yer hear that?, and the piano was suspended in front of the Georg-Büchner-Schule in Darmstadt for the duration of the summer courses there in 1986. I'm sorry to have to admit that I missed the actual performance, which I don't think involves the piano being played (it was suspended at such an angle as to make this very difficult.)

Another piano anecdote: there is a piece (maybe by David Tudor, but I might have got that completely wrong??) in which the pianist is required to whip the piano very hard. The photographer Malcolm Crowthers, who may be known (by reputation at least!) to some readers, once told me that he'd been at a recital which included this piece, and had been so outraged by - as he saw it - this inexcusable treatment of a valuable instrument that, knowing the recital was to be repeated the following day, he had snuck back in after the concert and stolen the pianist's whip.

Malcolm still has said whip proudly displayed in his flat, along with several other objects with equally interesting histories. He told me that Elliott and Helen Carter once visited and Helen's first words on entering the flat, in her strong New York accent, were: 'Gee, where'd you get all this kitsch?'
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« Reply #62 on: 14:16:06, 12-07-2007 »


Yes, often mistakenly paired with Prit-ten...
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... i think you might mean a composeurette going by the name of  Pritti Paintal, who had a number of pieces performed around the end of the eightees. it's little surprise that nobody really remembers the pieces ...
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« Reply #63 on: 16:32:48, 12-07-2007 »

Sweat causes copper to oxidize. It is indeed not a good thing. Have to replace the string before too long. To touch the strings, first briefly reach for some talcum powder or an absorbent cloth. If not, use a piano you don't care too much about.

Tippex, however (liquid paper, or correction fluid, or boo boo goo, or whatever you call it) is less harmful, all it takes is a tiny drop, which can be carefully brushed off when it is no longer needed.
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« Reply #64 on: 18:43:46, 12-07-2007 »

Last night I saw a ('third generation') Steinway engineer strum the strings of a Steinway concert grand in front of an audience. The pianist giving the recital then did exactly the same while demonstrating some point a bit later on, and then the guy from the piano showroom (from whence the piano came) did it during the interval!
Are Steinways rust-proof?
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« Reply #65 on: 19:08:49, 12-07-2007 »

Last night I saw a ('third generation') Steinway engineer strum the strings of a Steinway concert grand in front of an audience. The pianist giving the recital then did exactly the same while demonstrating some point a bit later on, and then the guy from the piano showroom (from whence the piano came) did it during the interval!
Are Steinways rust-proof?
Not all the strings have copper on 'em... but if the Steinway dude himself says so, maybe he just wants to sell more piano string?  Cheesy
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« Reply #66 on: 09:53:24, 24-01-2008 »

... and Andrea Neumann who has (John might like this) had an instrument built to her own specifications: a portable piano frame, with strings but without action or keyboard:

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't that, basically, a harp?

BTW Naxos did a couple of CDs of the Prepared Piano pieces. Not sure if they are still available.
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« Reply #67 on: 10:09:07, 24-01-2008 »

... and Andrea Neumann who has (John might like this) had an instrument built to her own specifications: a portable piano frame, with strings but without action or keyboard:

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't that, basically, a harp?
no, since it is strung like a piano (ie with higher pitches double and triple-strung), using piano strings at higher tension than those of a harp, and it's placed horizontally to make preparation and the use of items like E-Bows easier. A piano is by no means just a harp with a keyboard!
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« Reply #68 on: 10:34:35, 24-01-2008 »

...and has for that matter the full 88-note chromatic range right there in front of one instead of 47 diatonic notes.

(For those who haven't seen a harp up close: there are seven strings per octave and the chromatic degrees come from the pedal settings. At least in the usual orchestral model.)
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« Reply #69 on: 11:04:53, 24-01-2008 »

A piano is by no means just a harp with a keyboard!

How about a harpsichord? That must be pretty close.

Thinks: maybe there's a clue in the name?
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« Reply #70 on: 11:11:59, 24-01-2008 »

A piano is by no means just a harp with a keyboard!

How about a harpsichord? That must be pretty close.
Not at all, I'm afraid. As Ollie says, a harp has only 7 notes per octave - they can be chromatically altered, but at any given time only 7 of the 12 chromatic pitches are available.

The playing mechanism of the harpsichord has more in common with that of the harp than the piano does, since the strings are plucked rather than hammered, but a harpsichord still doesn't sound much like a harp, not least because the plucking is done mechanically and there's no real dynamic control available on the harpsichord; a harp in that sense is closer to a guitar.
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« Reply #71 on: 11:22:48, 24-01-2008 »

The thing that does the plucking on a harpsichord is something like a tiny and very hard plectrum whereas the harp player generally uses the flesh of the fingertips (usually not the little finger though)... classical guitarists use the fingernails except sometimes on period instruments.

And while the harp has seven available notes per octave the harpsichord generally indeed has twelve (sometimes fewer in the bass) - but sometimes even more (look up archicembalo for a particularly wacky variety).

Oddly enough English seems to be the only language which calls a harpsichord anything like a harpsichord... the Germans and Italians use cembalo or sometimes clavicembalo, the French clavecin, the other European languages similar words. Anyone know why? (I don't.)
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« Reply #72 on: 11:26:00, 24-01-2008 »

How is a baroque harp strung?  As far as I know they don't have pedals, but beyond that I don't know anything about them (I've seen them rarely - only for the big solo in Saul, and as that's in the first half, the harpist always leaves in the interval so I've never been able to check out the instrument).
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« Reply #73 on: 12:21:59, 24-01-2008 »

How is a baroque harp strung?  As far as I know they don't have pedals, but beyond that I don't know anything about them (I've seen them rarely - only for the big solo in Saul, and as that's in the first half, the harpist always leaves in the interval so I've never been able to check out the instrument).

The most common kind is the triple harp, which has three ranks of strings: the outer two are both tuned to F major (but only the one for the left hand runs right down to the bottom of the range), and the inner one fills in the missing pitches.
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« Reply #74 on: 12:30:07, 24-01-2008 »

and the inner one fills in the missing pitches.

you mean it's...chromatic?  Shocked
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