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« Reply #2130 on: 09:15:39, 04-02-2008 »
Quote from: Ian Pace on 23:02:41, 03-02-2008
I'm rather interested to know what those who don't really 'get' Brahms feel about Schoenberg (any period of his work)?

Well, it's a very simple pattern for me. Works pre-1908 - can sort of take 'em or leave 'em, although I have a few favourites (some of the songs especially, and certainly the 1st Chamber Symphony), so very much on a par with my feelings about Brahms.
Works between 1908-1923 - adore them! Some of the most wonderful music I know, always gripping, fantastically inventive, hugely suggestive, kaleidescopic.
Works post-1923 - see works pre-1908 above.

I really can't explain this. I recognise his quality, right across the board, but only seem to 'click' in that 'middle' period.

Right, that's all off-topic. NS: a whole bunch of Varese, since I have to teach (about) him on Thursday, and, later, some stuff by a Brazilian guy who's been studying at Richard and Ollie's place.  Smiley
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« Reply #2131 on: 09:41:07, 04-02-2008 »
Quote from: martle on 09:15:39, 04-02-2008
Works pre-1908 - can sort of take 'em or leave 'em ...
Works between 1908-1923 - adore them! Some of the most wonderful music I know, always gripping, fantastically inventive, hugely suggestive, kaleidescopic.
Works post-1923 - see works pre-1908 above.

I really can't explain this.

Sounds to me as if the great dust cloud of 1908 must have had something to do with it. Maybe there is a pocket of it lingering in the bracing air of Hove that makes the locals happily receptive?

Now spinning here as part of my faltering quest to 'get' Brahms:



Any thoughts on these performances from Brahms lovers? I'm rather taken with them as determinedly 'non-brown' Brahms. 
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« Reply #2132 on: 09:52:13, 04-02-2008 »
Quote from: George Garnett on 09:41:07, 04-02-2008
Now spinning here as part of my faltering quest to 'get' Brahms:



Any thoughts on these performances from Brahms lovers? I'm rather taken with them as determinedly 'non-brown' Brahms. 
Haven't heard them - not especially wild about the Emerson Quartet, but could you elaborate a bit on aspects of these recordings?

NS chez Pace: Carter Sonata played by Rosen, probably my favourite all-told of the three recordings I have (Rosen, Lawson, Jacobs).
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« Reply #2133 on: 15:31:27, 04-02-2008 »


Arrived in the post about an hour ago.

It's spinning, but I am not listening. The first 40' 42" of "For John Cage" are on the first CD, and the other 41' 14" are on the second CD of the double album, so I am ripping the two tracks with the aim of editing them back together for overburning to an 81' 56" CD-R.
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« Reply #2134 on: 00:10:01, 06-02-2008 »
After it was offered as an answer on Mr Grew's Repertoire Test earlier...



...a quite thrilling piece in the same vein as En Saga, I think.
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« Reply #2135 on: 19:24:31, 06-02-2008 »
Richard Wagner's Rienzi Overture.

BBC Symphony Orchestra conducted by Sir Charles Mackerras.

Recorded in 1974 (it's that BBC Radio Classic disc with Sheila Armstrong singing the vocal part of Mahler's Fourth Symphony).
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Still Lisztening...


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« Reply #2136 on: 21:42:24, 06-02-2008 »
Alkan - Le Vent, played by Marc-Andre Hamelin.  Great stuff!
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« Reply #2137 on: 21:56:03, 06-02-2008 »
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« Reply #2138 on: 22:39:38, 06-02-2008 »


And quite interesting and unexpectedly spicy it is, too.  The solo singing could be improved upon, but I was glad to find that Clemencic is much less catatonic a conductor than he is a keyboardist.  (Though the whole could be a bit faster...)
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« Reply #2139 on: 19:29:35, 07-02-2008 »


The "Extra" on it is the same film of Stravinsky conducting the 1945 Firebird Suite as is used as a bonus item on the Firebird and Les Noces ballets conducted by John Carewe. Still, can't complain too much at the price, especially as the audio is LPCM mono, rather than the strange Dolby Digital 'stereo' of the ballets DVD. You do also lose the nice BBC announcer introducing old Igor as he walks up to the podium though. The picture is clearer than in the ballets version, too.
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« Reply #2140 on: 19:47:06, 07-02-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 19:29:35, 07-02-2008


The "Extra" on it is the same film of Stravinsky conducting the 1945 Firebird Suite as is used as a bonus item on the Firebird and Les Noces ballets conducted by John Carewe. Still, can't complain too much at the price, especially as the audio is LPCM mono, rather than the strange Dolby Digital 'stereo' of the ballets DVD. You do also lose the nice BBC announcer introducing old Igor as he walks up to the podium though. The picture is clearer than in the ballets version, too.

I remember an old black and white television performance by Markevitch (1960s) of Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms. It was broadcast on Muzzik in the late 1990s. I believe he was conducting the O.R.T.F. Orchestra on that recording.
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« Reply #2141 on: 20:05:17, 07-02-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:47:06, 07-02-2008

I remember an old black and white television performance by Markevitch (1960s) of Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms. It was broadcast on Muzzik in the late 1990s. I believe he was conducting the O.R.T.F. Orchestra on that recording.

That'll be the one on this DVD. It was filmed 14 June 1967 at the ORTF in Paris.
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« Reply #2142 on: 20:14:58, 07-02-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 20:05:17, 07-02-2008
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:47:06, 07-02-2008

I remember an old black and white television performance by Markevitch (1960s) of Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms. It was broadcast on Muzzik in the late 1990s. I believe he was conducting the O.R.T.F. Orchestra on that recording.

That'll be the one on this DVD. It was filmed 14 June 1967 at the ORTF in Paris.

Good to know that this performance is available on DVD, Bryn. Smiley

I found an O.R.T.F. Markevitch performance of Isoldes Liebestod on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMR-kqyeTnU

It was recorded in 1968.
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« Reply #2143 on: 20:28:57, 07-02-2008 »
Quote from: pim_derks on 20:14:58, 07-02-2008
Quote from: Bryn on 20:05:17, 07-02-2008
Quote from: pim_derks on 19:47:06, 07-02-2008

I remember an old black and white television performance by Markevitch (1960s) of Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms. It was broadcast on Muzzik in the late 1990s. I believe he was conducting the O.R.T.F. Orchestra on that recording.

That'll be the one on this DVD. It was filmed 14 June 1967 at the ORTF in Paris.

Good to know that this performance is available on DVD, Bryn. Smiley

I found an O.R.T.F. Markevitch performance of Isoldes Liebestod on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMR-kqyeTnU

It was recorded in 1968.

Yep, that's the one on the DVD too. 15 September 1968. All the audio on the DVD is LPCM mono, and very nicely remastered, my ears tell me.
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« Reply #2144 on: 20:35:48, 07-02-2008 »
I now see that there are only 2 clips of Markevitch on Youtube.

With Irmgard Seefried performing Mozart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EpI4fxfv70
 
(I'm afraid that this thread is beginning to look like the Watch and Listen thread Cheesy )
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