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« Reply #225 on: 11:59:18, 20-03-2007 » |
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And do you know Final Alice? Even more so......
i do not! how many alice's are there? This mornings - ie before the cricket starts - listening: Begin to Hope - Regina Spektor Symphony 3 - Furtwangler. BPO/Maazel. edit - the Furtwangler - yes, i'm listening again - is an astonishing piece; by turns Franck, Liszt and Bruckner... but it has its own sound - harmonically and orchestrally - that marks it out as being by a composer with his own voice. and the Scherzo...! |
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« Reply #226 on: 12:47:50, 20-03-2007 » |
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And do you know Final Alice? Even more so......
i do not! how many alice's are there So far as I'm aware: Pot Pourri (1968) An Alice Symphony (1969, rev. 1976) Adventures Underground (1971, rev. !977) Vintage Alice (1972) Final Alice (1976) And related works: Child Alice (1977-1981) ( In Memory of a Summer Day, Quaint Events, Happy Voices, All in a Golden Afternoon) Haddocks' Eyes (1985) Dum Dee Tweedle (1991-2) http://www.boosey.com/pages/cr/composer/composer_main.asp?composerid=2854 |
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« Reply #227 on: 12:48:35, 20-03-2007 » |
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he wasn't obsessed....?
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« Reply #228 on: 17:45:52, 20-03-2007 » |
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David Del Tredici
In Memory of a Summer Day - Child Alice, Part One
it's like strauss (r), wagner and knussen rolled into one!
Really? You think? Must admit, I don't know that particular work of Del Tredici, but I'm having a hard time imagining his work sounding like Strauss or Wagner. The Knussen I can kind of imagine, but even then, it seems a bit of a stretch. I'm going to dig around to see if I can find a recording in our esteemed library to investigate further ... |
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« Reply #229 on: 18:05:38, 20-03-2007 » |
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NS for me .... I'm taking a break from listening to the new Arcade Fire disc (which, ehem, is the very definition of 'sophomore slump') to have a go at St John's w/ Parrott/Taverner Consort & Players while I push notes around a pixel at a time in Finale. A very, very nice disc. I quite like the recitatives, in particular.
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« Reply #230 on: 20:43:50, 20-03-2007 » |
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I seem to be on quite the Bach OVPP kick at the moment. I'm on to the Motets w/ Cantus Coelln, which is absolutely stunning. I've been a longtime fan of the Herreweghe recording (as w/ all of his recordings, slightly slower, slightly warmer, slightly milkier, but excellent all around), but this one is altogether superior. Highly, highly recommended recording.
While I'm on this little OVPP jaunt ... anyone have other recommendations? I have the Cantus Coelln B Minor & Motets, Parrott St John, Magnificat/Easter Oratorio, and McCreesh St Matthew. Any others I should get my hands on b/f I move on to my next obsession?
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« Reply #231 on: 20:51:19, 20-03-2007 » |
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I seem to be on quite the Bach OVPP kick at the moment. I'm on to the Motets w/ Cantus Coelln, which is absolutely stunning. I've been a longtime fan of the Herreweghe recording (as w/ all of his recordings, slightly slower, slightly warmer, slightly milkier, but excellent all around), but this one is altogether superior. Highly, highly recommended recording.
While I'm on this little OVPP jaunt ... anyone have other recommendations? I have the Cantus Coelln B Minor & Motets, Parrott St John, Magnificat/Easter Oratorio, and McCreesh St Matthew. Any others I should get my hands on b/f I move on to my next obsession?
There are various cantatas done OVPP by Parrott as well - do you have the (extremely cheap) Virgin box set? |
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« Reply #233 on: 21:51:42, 20-03-2007 » |
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The Herreweghe/ Chapelle Royale motets are (IMO) the best I've heard. Though I'm a Kuijken fan as well. Do you know the Leonhardt/ Petite Bande (which includes a Kuijken or two) B minor Mass? There is the odd dodgy choral moment, but then you get Rene Jacobs (in 1985) as one of the soloists.
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« Reply #234 on: 23:20:36, 20-03-2007 » |
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Aaron,
If you can get a copy of the LP of Final Alice, you'll find that there's a surprising amount of material which owes fealty to Richard Strauss: it's way over the top, but done with such panache I can't help but love it: the last five minutes or so are absolutely stunning: simple and moving with a trick in the tail that is just brilliant. It's never been silvered, but the vinyl turns up on eBay quite often...I just wish I could locate the CD dub I have, but it's in storage somewhere right now.....
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« Reply #235 on: 03:33:48, 21-03-2007 » |
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More Alices....
Alexander Nesterov's opera "Alice in Wonderland"
Valeria Malakovskaya's "Strange Alice"* (suite for soprano and piano)
Valery Radchenkov's "Through The Looking-Glass" (for soprano and piano, also for soprano and chamber ensemble)
Igor Egikov's "Alice dances through Wonderland" (piano)
* title arises because the book's Russian title is "Alice in the Land Of Strangeness"
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« Reply #236 on: 10:35:35, 21-03-2007 » |
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More Alices....
Alexander Nesterov's opera "Alice in Wonderland"
Valeria Malakovskaya's "Strange Alice"* (suite for soprano and piano)
Valery Radchenkov's "Through The Looking-Glass" (for soprano and piano, also for soprano and chamber ensemble)
Igor Egikov's "Alice dances through Wonderland" (piano)
* title arises because the book's Russian title is "Alice in the Land Of Strangeness"
it seems a story that has captured the imagination of Russia's composers...any idea why, Reiner? i ask this because, relatively - and to my own knowledge - there doesn't seem to have been a great deal of compositional uptake western europe wise. /gets proved wrong...just spinning...Furtwangler - Symphonic Concerto. Barenboim - LAPO/Mehta oh dear god - what an awful lump of music. Compared it to the Fischer/Furtwangler performance, which is more musical, but still awful. |
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« Reply #237 on: 10:43:13, 21-03-2007 » |
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Isn't there a Joseph Horovitz Alice Ballet? And the American Deems Taylor wrote a Through the Looking Glass Suite.
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« Reply #238 on: 11:10:06, 21-03-2007 » |
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Tim Parkinson - Cello Piece (on ed.wandelweiser). Really like how this has no beginnings or ends, the composer recommends that you use the shuffle function when playing it - try that later, though it sounds 'confusing' enough when played in the sequence given.
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« Reply #239 on: 11:48:06, 21-03-2007 » |
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Hi Tonybob
I think the "Alice in Wonderland" story somehow captured the Russian imagination? One could say "for good reasons and bad..."... partly because the escapist idea of a fantasy-land where the normal rules don't apply is very popular in Russian story-telling anyhow (if you are interested in all this stuff, then google "Dazhdbog")... there was also a famous old soviet-era b/w movie called "Window To Paris", in which some rather dull soviet apartment-owners discover their balcony window goes to... Paris? (so same idea as "the Looking-Glass"). But also for sadder reasons... that during the USSR era only a tiny fraction of British literature would meet the censor's remit... anything which got printed had to be either politically neutral (Alice fitted this requirement) or optimally pointing out wretched social injustices in Britain by which the USSR seemed to compare favourable (Dickens, and reams and reams of John Bleedin' Galsworthy). And also out of copyright ;-)
Meanwhile, back to Alice.. I am just Listening Again to LJ Mon edition, and there are some Tom Waits songs from an opera (??) he wrote about Alice in Wonderland? Anyone know anything about that?
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