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« Reply #2985 on: 17:35:33, 18-06-2008 »

Yes, I like that Dave Smith guy. His recital at Bauer & Hieber was spinning here recently.
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« Reply #2986 on: 17:55:34, 18-06-2008 »

Absolutement, Turfs Wink
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« Reply #2987 on: 05:17:30, 19-06-2008 »

Turfblossom writes:

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Hermann Scherchen conducts an orchestration by Roger Vuataz of BWV 1080, recorded in Zürich, 21 November, 1949

I am hearing the Art of Fugue for what seems like the first time. Yet I know this is not Bach. It is very much an 'interpretive' orchestration, inauthentic in every way but the notes intervals.
For the first time in a long time I am inwardly compelled to listen to something as long as this twice in a row. It is now spinning for the second time, actually.

Thoughts are spinning too: the orchestration is quite bizarre. Vuataz ran the Geneva Conventions Radio for about 20 years. Whom did he study with? I have never heard of his teachers, nor have I seen such a biography before:

Quote from: Grove Online Dictionary of Music & Musicians
(b Geneva, 4 Jan 1898; d Geneva, 2 Feb 1988). Swiss composer, conductor and organist. He studied at the Geneva Academy and at the Geneva Conservatoire (with G. Delaye, A. Mottu and Otto Barblan). From an early age he was a leading figure in the musical life of Geneva. He was organist of the Protestant Église Nationale (1917–18), and between 1920 and 1942 he was choirmaster in Nyon and Yverdon. He conducted many orchestras, both in Switzerland and abroad. He worked for Radio Geneva in various capacities (1927–71) and from 1944 to 1964 he was head of its music department. In 1961 he became a professor at the Geneva Conservatoire. He took an interest in all kinds of innovations, particularly of a technical nature; he studied the ondes martenot in Paris in 1931 and became the first qualified ondes martenot player in Switzerland.  Shocked In 1936 he won the Jaques-Dalcroze diploma of eurhythmics. He also worked as a journalist and music critic, and was an active member of many musical organizations. In 1967 he was awarded the music prize of the city of Geneva, and in 1975 the music prize of the Musicians’ Union. During World War II he did not conform to national opinion, and defended Hermann Scherchen against unjustified attack.

His work as a composer was extremely prolific and he wrote in all genres. Sacred music is at the heart of his output, and in particular a concern with the music of Bach. Vuataz’s arrangement of the Art of Fugue attracted much interest in the 1930s. Later he adopted a free tonal style, picking up 20th-century currents in a very individual manner.
[emphasis and agape smiley mine]

Has anyone heard compositions by Vuataz? I don't expect them to be an enormous discovery, but am very curious.
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« Reply #2988 on: 08:28:36, 19-06-2008 »

Has anyone heard compositions by Vuataz?

Not I PeaseTurfblossom(!). I hadn't even heard of him until two minutes ago: interest now piqued. But I had heard of, and heard, Hermann Scherchen's own orchestration of The Art of Fugue. Mr Google now tells me that this was, in turn, based on the Roger Vuataz version, which I didn't know before. It's all getting more and more intriguing. 

[Later: And Amazon comes up with this which looks enticing on at least two counts. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Conductors-Rehearsal-Performance-Ancerl/dp/B0007IO7CW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1213859946&sr=1-1 Does anyone know it?]

Er, Garnettblossom  Huh


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« Reply #2989 on: 09:32:24, 19-06-2008 »

Going through a sequence, at the moment, with the ballet by Beethoven, The Creatures of Prometheus(COoE, Harnoncourt)

VW, London Symphony(RLPO/Handley), from the VW EMI Collector's Edition

Elgar: Sym no.2(Halle O, Barbirolli). From The Elgar Collection from EMI.
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« Reply #2990 on: 09:36:54, 19-06-2008 »

Not I PeaseTurfblossom(!). I hadn't even heard of him until two minutes ago: interest now piqued. But I had heard of, and heard, Hermann Scherchen's own orchestration of The Art of Fugue. Mr Google now tells me that this was, in turn, based on the Roger Vuataz version, which I didn't know before. It's all getting more and more intriguing.
I am not sure that I trust Google about Scherchen's version being based on Vuataz -- why would Scherchen need any kind of model at all?

In any case he was more satisfied with his own version than with Vuataz' - he recorded his own three times in one year (1965) before expiring the poor fellow the following summer.
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« Reply #2991 on: 09:45:56, 19-06-2008 »

I am not sure that I trust Google ...

Nor I any more. When I asked for 'Turfblossom' it offered me Turd Blossom instead.  Shocked
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« Reply #2992 on: 20:59:24, 19-06-2008 »

Elgar Enigma Variaitions. Philharmonia, Barbirolli.
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« Reply #2993 on: 21:03:15, 19-06-2008 »

Nor I any more. When I asked for 'Turfblossom' it offered me Turd Blossom instead.  Shocked
That was the source of my pun. Turd Blossom was the man on the left's nickname for the man on the right.



...not that I wish to be associated with these criminals.
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« Reply #2994 on: 05:07:10, 20-06-2008 »

Now spinning



The playing is marvelous, the Bolcom fairly inventive, but Wolpe continues to take the biscuit.
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« Reply #2995 on: 13:55:32, 20-06-2008 »

That wonderful recording of VWs Symphony no.5, with Vernon Handley and the RLPO.
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« Reply #2996 on: 18:29:58, 22-06-2008 »

Listened to this yesterday:



And I liked.
Oh. Just spotted this!

That was my first ever liner note. (And I even got to mention Marilyn Monroe.) Smiley
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« Reply #2997 on: 18:41:40, 22-06-2008 »

I just so love the Pet Shop Boys, the lyrics are great.
I've got the brains
You've got the looks
Let's make lots of money


Pretty searing about the 80s if you choose to hear it that way. Nostalgia's a funny thing.
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« Reply #2998 on: 18:44:41, 22-06-2008 »

I just so love the Pet Shop Boys, the lyrics are great.
I've got the brains
You've got the looks
Let's make lots of money


Pretty searing about the 80s if you choose to hear it that way. Nostalgia's a funny thing.

Nostalgia's not what it used to be  Cheesy
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« Reply #2999 on: 19:00:48, 22-06-2008 »

That was my first ever liner note. (And I even got to mention Marilyn Monroe.) Smiley
So is this likely to lead to the same sort of challenge that I'm sometimes offered in role-play sessions? Can you introduce such and such an unlikely word or phrase into your next session? Who's the most unlikely person that we might challenge you to mention in your next liner notes? John Prescott? 

(Mind you, if he can appear in a BBC R4 Classic Serial - The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists - over the last three Sunday afternoons, perhaps he's not the best choice....)
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