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Another Lyrita, though one of their home-grown products rather than the increasing catalogue of important Arts Council funded recordings rescued from the vaults of Polygram/Universal, which has seen recordings of works by composers such as Birtwistle, Crosse and Roberto Gerhard released on CD for the first time (with promise of more to come - a Justin Connolly disc including Cinquepaces is on the August release sheet). Arnold Cooke's another of those quintessentially Lyrita composers: a pupil of Hindemith, he lived from 1906-2005, and wrote finely crafted music with plenty of muscle and a firm sense of structure. Not a limelight-seeker by nature, he's not well-known, but worth exploring if British mid 20th century mainstream is to your liking. The Hindemith influence is discernable, but not domineering; his style would be in the area bounded perhaps by Rawsthorne, early Tippett, late Holst and George Lloyd. The recordings (a different session for each of the works) are all out of Lyrita's top drawer, being the work of top Decca teams of their day. |
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« Reply #3121 on: 12:41:50, 21-07-2008 » |
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Thank you, Ron. I never heard of Arnold Cooke. if British mid 20th century mainstream is to your liking Oh, yes!  The Hindemith influence is discernable, but not domineering. For a domineering Hindemith influence we can listen to the music of Jan Koetsier, a Dutch Nazi collaborator. I'll put some of his music on Sendspace in the near future. Koetsier wrote "Sieg Heil"-letters to the German occupiers, gave a lot of concerts in Nazi-Germany but also wrote orchestral works in the style of Hindemith. The mind boggles.  |
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« Reply #3122 on: 13:19:09, 21-07-2008 » |
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. . . we can listen to the music of Jan Koetsier . . . I'll put some of his music on Sendspace in the near future. That will be interesting! We just looked him up in an oldish edition of Grove, and saw that he was born in 1911, and besides his composing was second conductor of the Concertgebouw Orchestra under Mengelberg after 1942. Is he still going strong do you know? He wrote three symphonies after 1945, and does not appear to have been exiled as Mengelberg was (and that was later said to have been a mistake - do Members think it was?), but in 1950 went of his own volition to live in the Fatherland, where after all he had received his musical education in the twenties. |
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« Reply #3123 on: 13:43:11, 21-07-2008 » |
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Jan Koetsier died in Munich in 2006. You can find more facts on him via Google. A jury tried to exile him in 1945 but they didn't succeed because they hadn't enough evidence against him. "I wonder if you gentleman have any piece of evidence that can proof that I made a career in Nazi-Germany," he said to this jury. They hadn't a contract, they hadn't a concert programme, in fact they had nothing. Koetsier became the first "Kapellmeister" of the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra in 1950. Compared to him, Werner Egk was a musical genius. By the way: what has happened to your avatar, Mr Grew?  |
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"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
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George Garnett
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« Reply #3124 on: 18:04:24, 21-07-2008 » |
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Now spinning, courtesy of Youtube, Natacha Atlas, Miss Barrett's favoured performer for Musical Chairs. I think I agree. Skilled stuff. Just the ticket. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D9ixnf_HCQ&feature=related The Musical Chairs aspect loses a little something when there's only one of you and one chair. Inside knowledge of when you are about to stop the music doesn't help either. But none of that can be laid at Ms Atlas' door. |
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« Reply #3125 on: 19:01:43, 21-07-2008 » |
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Miss Barrett To be precise, though, her name is actually Miss Wassermann, which seemed only fair on account of her first name being thoroughly Welsh. |
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« Reply #3126 on: 19:34:14, 21-07-2008 » |
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Fair indeed. My apologies. (And scales fall from eyes once again.)
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« Reply #3127 on: 22:45:16, 22-07-2008 » |
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Recently spinning ie finished about 10 mins ago: Robert Simpson's 1987 String Quintet.
This was due to a combination of factors: a) I thought I ought to sit down and listen to something seriously rather than just play it on the computer, switch the radio on, stick a minidisc on when I was on the bus etc; b) the Hyperion CD has been waiting to be checked out for CD rot. It sounded fine, compositionally and technically.
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« Reply #3128 on: 22:55:39, 22-07-2008 » |
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A long, hot soak in the bath listening to this:  What a gloriously played slow movement, tinged with the bittersweet sadness I associate with the last day of term which is almost upon us at school. Whilst now spinning is a disc of Glyndebourne Wind Serenades with Jonathan Dove's Figures in the Garden, which martle reminded me existed some weeks ago, purchased in cdr format, complete with original liner notes and cover, from ArkivMusic.  |
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« Reply #3129 on: 23:12:38, 22-07-2008 » |
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Also spinning more than once on iPlayer:
Julie Driscoll with Brian Auger's Trinity: This Wheel's On Fire off BBC4's Pop Go The Sixties
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« Reply #3130 on: 00:17:05, 23-07-2008 » |
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I've now got One Chord Wonders by the Adverts on - it's on minidisc but I've got the original Stiff seven incher  There's a series of 5 plays on Friday nights on Radio 4 based around a (fictional) gig by The Adverts in Camberley in 1977 - anyone heard them? I heard last Friday's with Pauline Quirke. |
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« Reply #3132 on: 18:39:10, 24-07-2008 » |
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Mathias Spahlinger: Farben den Frühe for 7 pianos
and before that
Klaus Lang: The Sea of Despair for string quartet
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« Reply #3133 on: 18:58:29, 24-07-2008 » |
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I now have the DG commercial recording of Berio's Coro, too. Some copies of this seemed to be pretty pricey, but this was a snip compared even to the average. The labels stuck on the disc and on the back of the cover inform me that this copy is a 'discard' from Akron Summit County Public Library, which is apparently in Ohio. I'd hazard a guess that it was infrequently borrowed: the disc looks unmarked, and the booklet is very clean and free from creases. A very different perspective from the live recording (well it is DG, after all), and more leisurely paced (unless extra music was introduced during the revision which happened between that earlier recording and this): I don't yet know the work well enough to be jarred by sudden differences - it certainly runs several minutes longer. More detailed exploration required. Wide variation of prices still. |
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« Reply #3134 on: 19:41:33, 24-07-2008 » |
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a v rtual l sten for some v nce mendoza as non-numerate postpersons of s.e. eleven have also smashed and returned to sender my latest amazon order. must go over and hear the metropole orchestra of haarlem one o f these days as md'd by vm. crosse ac ressues v good news ron cheers.
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