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« Reply #3765 on: 22:37:54, 03-10-2008 » |
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Bryars A Man in a Room, Gambling. I love this piece. (Perhaps I'm the only one here but never mind, I'm used to that.) The way the dramatic stabs of the music offset the straight-faced card-cheating instructions but at the same time hint at the human dramas that can erupt when exactly those straight-faced instructions are followed to the letter. And of course the way the music and the narration constantly distract from each other so that neither actually makes sense...
I've had the recording with just five of the ten pieces for a while and always wanted the whole thing - found it in la chaumière à musique yesterday. The playing isn't quite as clean as on the other recording but having the whole thing does very much add to the timelessness of it all.
Now, as on every evening, take your pack of cards...
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« Reply #3766 on: 01:29:45, 04-10-2008 » |
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Surely there are plenty of people here who are interested in Bryars' work?
I certainly am (though I find the Tom Waits Jesus' Blood difficult to forgive, and I like Waits' work too). I don't know anything about this particular piece though. I've ordered it and I shall report in due course.
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« Reply #3767 on: 07:07:50, 04-10-2008 » |
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Surely there are plenty of people here who are interested in Bryars' work? The word I used wasn't 'interested' of course but something a little stronger... Look forward to your thoughts. I find it a piece whose effect is completely out of proportion to its means. (Not that I'm unfamiliar with such pieces but this one goes in the right direction.)
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« Reply #3768 on: 14:04:14, 04-10-2008 » |
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Last Chance Disco by Acoustic Ladyland.
The library has this classified as "Jazz" and I first heard about them on Jazz on 3, but if I'd just heard this with no further info, I wouldn't have called it Jazz - perhaps it's because the lead instrument is a saxophone?
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« Reply #3769 on: 20:41:29, 04-10-2008 » |
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I shall have WORDS to say about this. About 500 in fact but as they're being sought on a professional basis I hope no one minds if I don't say too much here. What I will say is: natural horns. As well as: live. And: [Sean Connery accent]yesh[/Sean Connery accent].
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« Reply #3770 on: 20:44:32, 04-10-2008 » |
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I've considered buying this, as I was impressed by the excerpt on the Gramophone cover disc last month (yes...hangs head in shame, I still purchase it, but I have a subscription wth IRR, honest...) And: [Sean Connery accent]yesh[/Sean Connery accent].
And that is recommendation enough!!
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« Reply #3771 on: 11:41:34, 06-10-2008 » |
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Bryars A Man in a Room, Gambling. I love this piece. (Perhaps I'm the only one here but never mind, I'm used to that.) The way the dramatic stabs of the music offset the straight-faced card-cheating instructions but at the same time hint at the human dramas that can erupt when exactly those straight-faced instructions are followed to the letter. And of course the way the music and the narration constantly distract from each other so that neither actually makes sense...
I've had the recording with just five of the ten pieces for a while and always wanted the whole thing - found it in la chaumière à musique yesterday. The playing isn't quite as clean as on the other recording but having the whole thing does very much add to the timelessness of it all.
Now, as on every evening, take your pack of cards...
I heard the whole thing on the radio just after it was written (IIRC). I don't remember quite what my reaction was. I seem to recall something about how Bryars had intended them to be like the shipping forecast.
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« Reply #3772 on: 11:48:16, 06-10-2008 » |
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I seem to recall something about how Bryars had intended them to be like the shipping forecast.
What? You mean his piece ends with that bl*&dy waltz? Right, that's it. I'm never listening to another work by Gavin Bryars. Too risky.
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« Reply #3774 on: 15:05:29, 06-10-2008 » |
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My CD hasn't arrived yet... do you prefer the string quartet versions or the others?
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« Reply #3775 on: 15:13:23, 06-10-2008 » |
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Some of the movements (by no means all) exist in versions with other instruments added - for colouristic purposes, perhaps, or because other instruments (clarinet, tuned percussion, electric keyboard) happened to be around. Hope I've remembered that right - it's been a few years . . . the extra instruments were welcome as far as I was concerned.
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« Reply #3776 on: 17:35:06, 06-10-2008 » |
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While I was away I indulged my Mahlerian tendencies rather a lot and completed my first listenings to Gielen's cycle. Once more: this is unmissable for anyone with an interest in this music. I was a bit underwhelmed by the 8th because the solo singing is a bit undistinguished a lot of the time, and as I've said before the 4th wouldn't be my favourite either, but most of the others - yes. I just ordered his 10th having only the Adagio in the box set (why was that I wonder).
I also had a listen to the Mazzetti realisation of the 10th as conducted by Lopez Cobos. This now sounds much less convincing to me than it used to. While the orchestration is convincing enough as such, in terms of density and colour, Mazzetti's countermelodies, while they happen in the right places for the right reasons so to speak, are always recognisable as such on account of their relative unsubtlety. I've suspected for some time that movements 2, 4 and (especially) 5 are not just incomplete in terms of instrumentation but also in terms of harmony, which here, even when the textures are tastefully filled out, seem unwarrantedly to pull back from the agonising multiple suspensions of the first movement into an inappropriately unsophisticated harmonic world. So I think, not without regret, that the Cooke realisation is still the best way of hearing the music so far, since it is at least pretty much all Mahler and doesn't pretend to be a completed piece. Maybe there's still room for more developments on this front.
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« Reply #3777 on: 17:41:39, 06-10-2008 » |
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Bought in Truro Cathedral Gift Shop a 2cd album of the same cathedral choir singing Vierne and organ as well. not bad buy for £9.99. Very good sound quality from Regent Records. Anybody heard of this company? Recorded this year as well. Well worth an investigation.
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« Reply #3778 on: 18:24:01, 06-10-2008 » |
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I just ordered his 10th having only the Adagio in the box set (why was that I wonder).
You've not read the programme notes, eh richard?* Gielen had a sort of road to Damascus reconsideration of his rejection of performing versions of the whole work. At the time of the concert in which just the Adagio was played, he was dead against performing the whole work. He discusses his change of view in the notes which accompany the separate CD of the 10th. * You did get the notes booklet with your Gielen set, didn't you? If not, email Hänssler, they will probably be very obliging and put one in the post for you. They certainly sorted my missing booklet for me.
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« Reply #3779 on: 18:35:24, 06-10-2008 » |
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You've not read the programme notes, eh richard?
No. I didn't take the box to Australia with me, I just had the CDs jammed into the iPod.
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