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« Reply #4005 on: 16:34:41, 04-11-2008 » |
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Spinning for most of this afternoon: Brahms, Tragic Overture, Symphony No 3 etc.
One of my greatest failures of imagination, I feel, is that I simply can't imagine what Brahms sounds like to people who don't like it.
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« Reply #4006 on: 18:16:47, 04-11-2008 » |
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I have the same feeling a lot, tinners. Do you think there is a 'Brahms Gene', which you and I have, but others don't? Will we both end up longing for Clara? No, maybe not. I wonder if people who like Brahms tend to like Schumann?
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« Reply #4007 on: 18:17:48, 04-11-2008 » |
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I like Schumann but not Brahms.
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« Reply #4008 on: 18:20:36, 04-11-2008 » |
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I like them both, but I don't often think of them at the same time. And I know Schumann's songs best; then his piano music; only then his orchestral works, whereas with Brahms I know primarily the orchestral music.
NS: R. Ostrich - An Alpen Symphony
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« Reply #4009 on: 18:26:45, 04-11-2008 » |
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NS: Mikel Rouse - Soul Train. I rather like this, in a Tears for Fears sort of way. It puts Miri to sleep though (which is something else in its favour).
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« Reply #4010 on: 18:32:24, 04-11-2008 » |
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NS: Mikel Rouse - Soul Train. I rather like this, in a Tears for Fears sort of way. It puts Miri to sleep though (which is something else in its favour).
trj, you are a Tears for Fears fan? Sowing the seeds of love and all that? Well, well. How is little Miri doing btw? |
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« Reply #4011 on: 18:33:03, 04-11-2008 » |
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I tend to think of Brahms as a kind of musical Wordsworth, a bit on the worthy side. It's almost certainly me: I've never identified a musical character there.
I found the Opus 111 (113?) intermezzi, which I heard recently, very beautiful. Perhaps I ought to expose myself to some chamber music.
(The requiem hasn't worked for me yet, but I'm told the Rattle recording I have is a bit lacking in sparkle.)
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A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #4012 on: 18:42:58, 04-11-2008 » |
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NS: Bernard Parmegiani, complete works, disc 2, still only 1970... I hadn't previously realised how much there was to his earlier works. The more collage-like ones now seem more in the nature of period pieces not so far removed from what Pierre Henry was up to at the time, but some of them already show the unique inventiveness with sound, time and perspective which reaches its first culmination in De natura sonorum of 1975.
In an interview in the accompanying booklet Parmegiani explains that while working as a sound engineer at the GRM he was also training as a mime artist (he was already in his late thirties when he produced his first musical compositions). This goes some way to explaining the sense of "gesture" in his music, its often seeming to consist of physical movements even when it was actually a load of bits of tape stuck together.
I don't know the most recent pieces in the set, but from the ones I've got to know it's striking how little his musical style changes in the transition from analogue to digital techniques in the 1980s - in comparison to Stockhausen, who more or less abandoned electronic music after Sirius in 1977, returning to it only in 1990 (Oktophonie) and from that point on using commercial synthesizers in an "instrumental" way as sound sources. Anyway, of composers whose entire work is in the electronic domain, I can't think of one whose work impresses me as much as Parmegiani's.
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« Reply #4013 on: 18:50:08, 04-11-2008 » |
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Perhaps I ought to expose myself to some chamber music.
Not in this weather surely. |
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« Reply #4014 on: 18:51:01, 04-11-2008 » |
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NS: Mikel Rouse - Soul Train. I rather like this, in a Tears for Fears sort of way. It puts Miri to sleep though (which is something else in its favour).
trj, you are a Tears for Fears fan? Sowing the seeds of love and all that? Well, well. How is little Miri doing btw? Not a big fan, but I like most of what little I know. I'm thinking of 'Pharoahs' more than 'Sowing the seeds' here. Miri's doing really well. This week's projects are: 1) blowing raspberries 2) stuffing toys into the mouth and 3) kicking all the water out of the bath. |
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« Reply #4015 on: 19:49:18, 04-11-2008 » |
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One of my greatest failures of imagination, I feel, is that I simply can't imagine what Brahms sounds like to people who don't like it.
I do have this exact same difficulty although putting that as a 'failure' seems a bit strong. |
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« Reply #4016 on: 20:53:51, 04-11-2008 » |
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Crawling out of the woodwork after a period of poor health and rather too much on my plate ... Anyway, greetings to all!  (Even those deaf to the wonders of Brahms.  ) NS:  ... which features some truly marvellous playing and goes straight to the top of the class (alongside the Skampa Quartet). Spinning earlier (several times) was this:  which knocked me sideways! Everything that ollie said about this is true. TRUE, I TELLS YA! (Not that I ever doubted him! ) I ordered 4 & 5 at the same time, but they're out of stock at MDT's suppliers: hoping they won't be too long in following. And these arrived today as well:   (Yes, am simultaneously spending my way out of depression and kick-starting the UK economy.) |
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« Reply #4017 on: 21:03:55, 04-11-2008 » |
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Everything that ollie said about this is true. TRUE, I TELLS YA! (Not that I ever doubted him! ) Was that what I said here or what my respected colleague Mr Rosman wrote in International Record Review? Either way - looking forward to nos. 1 and 2. And really hoping they take on the symphonies. As I believe is Mr Rosman. And the Belcea Janáček: seconded although my other top-of-class was the Hagens. |
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« Reply #4018 on: 21:24:01, 04-11-2008 » |
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What about the Pavel Haas people??? How are we meant to keep up when every new recording of the Janáček quartets gets such expert raves??? Nice to see you back, opi.  |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #4019 on: 21:31:21, 04-11-2008 » |
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What about the Pavel Haas people??? How are we meant to keep up when every new recording of the Janáček quartets gets such expert raves??? Oh gosh, yes, them too. Only they're on two discs. Still, the Haas quartets are pretty fine. Not every new recording, trust me. Took so long for me to find a second recording. Tried lots, too. |
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