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« Reply #4110 on: 20:16:08, 13-11-2008 »

Now here are some strange pieces. They're by Abel Decaux (1869-1943), a French organist who composed these 4 Clairs de lune in 1900, 1902, 1907 and 1903 respectively - and appears to have written precious little else. I've had the recordings a few years, but only came across the music yesterday on IMSLP.

http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/d/d6/IMSLP05982-Decaux_-_Clairs_de_Lune__piano_.pdf

Rhythmically and harmonically they're pretty obscure and definitely non-tonal though with frequent whole-tone scale suggestion. Despite that it's not easy to relate them to anything contemporaneous although you'd probably guess that no. 4 (entitled La mer) is French - although theres a suggestion of Scriabin's Vers la flamme rather than Debussy. No.1 has a strange 3rd pedal effect. No.3 is a bit more "normal" in that some of it has a pulse and employs recognizably major chords - hardly in a "normal" way, however.

I remember eruanto mentioning that he'd turned pages for Hamelin's recording of these pieces . . .
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« Reply #4111 on: 21:54:33, 13-11-2008 »

Hi Autoharp
tks for yr clip of Le Cimitiere Marin by Valen

very atmospheric piece which reminded me a lot of Sibelius 4TH/Tapiola  Smiley
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« Reply #4112 on: 23:20:09, 13-11-2008 »

@ Richard:
Thanks for posting about the Biber. I'm not familiar with those pieces at all (except for the four pieces that appear on the English Concert's Missa Christi Resurgensis disc, which had whetted my appetite for this collection). I'll certainly have to pick that up at some point in the near future.
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« Reply #4113 on: 23:46:02, 13-11-2008 »

Hi Autoharp
tks for yr clip of Le Cimitiere Marin by Valen

very atmospheric piece which reminded me a lot of Sibelius 4TH/Tapiola  Smiley


A pleasure, offbeat! Sharing discoveries is one of the pleasures of this board.
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« Reply #4114 on: 00:12:24, 14-11-2008 »

Thanks for posting about the Biber. I'm not familiar with those pieces at all (except for the four pieces that appear on the English Concert's Missa Christi Resurgensis disc, which had whetted my appetite for this collection). I'll certainly have to pick that up at some point in the near future.

You won't regret it. It's not the best possible recording of these pieces but it seems to me to be the best complete one that exists at the moment (the others are by the Clemencic Consort, with some annoyingly fussy organ continuo and not very well recorded, and the Purcell Quartet which I find somewhat dull).
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« Reply #4115 on: 00:20:07, 14-11-2008 »

You won't regret it. It's not the best possible recording of these pieces but it seems to me to be the best complete one that exists at the moment (the others are by the Clemencic Consort, with some annoyingly fussy organ continuo and not very well recorded, and the Purcell Quartet which I find somewhat dull).

Well, the great thing about the Biber revival of the last ten years or so is that multiple recordings of this stuff are popping up all over the place. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before The One comes along (or at least several performances between which one's desires can be temporarily sated).

Now spinning here:


Hummel is a composer I'm only really just getting to know, but I love these pieces, and the performance by Voces Intimae is quite something. Very fine fortepiano playing, too.
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« Reply #4116 on: 00:39:48, 14-11-2008 »

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before The One comes along

Oh I hope not!  Because then there will seem to be no point in anyone else doing it...


I just put on Radio 3 (Late Junkshop) only to hear a very strange rendition of Lully's Marche pour la Cérémonie turque from Le Bourgeoise Gentilhomme.  Very strange.

edit: here's who it was:

Murcof
Lully’s Turquerie as interpreted by an advanced script
CD The Versailles sessions

anyone know anything about them? and what's an "advanced script"?
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« Reply #4117 on: 01:46:17, 14-11-2008 »

Now spinning here:

The sonatas and the piano concertos are also well-represented on disc, with period instruments. Can't find the one I own online, though.
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« Reply #4118 on: 04:36:45, 14-11-2008 »

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before The One comes along

Oh I hope not!  Because then there will seem to be no point in anyone else doing it...

That doesn't really happen, does it? I thought when The One was released, it always prompted an immense interest in that particular work/collection, and then everybody did it. Just look at the range of recordings of the Rosenkranz Sonaten available these days.

I know absolutely nothing about that rendition of Lully, I'm sorry. What did it sound like? 'Advanced script' sounds like something to do with computers... :/

Now spinning, though is Hervé Nicquet's new release of Lully's Proserpine, which I am enjoying very much (despite that Lully is not so pleasing to me as perhaps some of the other opera composers of the French baroque).

Now spinning here:

The sonatas and the piano concertos are also well-represented on disc, with period instruments. Can't find the one I own online, though.

I don't have any of the sonatas, but have three of the piano concerti and the double concerto for violin and piano. Just scanning my boss's iTunes library, I note that he has some other chamber music and the mandolin concerto...
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« Reply #4119 on: 10:09:24, 14-11-2008 »

NS: Webern complete works. (Boulez, LSO, Julliard SQ etc.)
I've got to op 10 so far.
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« Reply #4120 on: 10:16:15, 14-11-2008 »

The Complete music of Liszt, volume 36 with the Geharnischte Lieder on it, the later version of which is in the new Liszt Society Journal which arrived here yesterday.
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« Reply #4121 on: 10:35:51, 14-11-2008 »

The Brandenburgs, prompted by noticing that someone was viewing a Brandenburg thread. 'Haven't heard that in a while' I thought. It's the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment recording on Virgin Veritas and although I've had it for several years, I still can't decide if I actually like it. Probably means I don't Undecided  It strikes me as being out of balance somehow.
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« Reply #4122 on: 11:04:57, 14-11-2008 »

The Brandenburgs

Mort, that reminded me that I needed to see this again.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vLsNzCx1ots

Bryn brought it (them) to our attention several months back, and it's worth another look/ listen. Search Youtube for 'Brandenburg Abbado' and you get more. Electrifying performances, and I want a commercial release, please. (Er, there isn't one yet, is there?)
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« Reply #4123 on: 11:05:55, 14-11-2008 »

The Brandenburgs, prompted by noticing that someone was viewing a Brandenburg thread. 'Haven't heard that in a while' I thought. It's the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment recording on Virgin Veritas and although I've had it for several years, I still can't decide if I actually like it. Probably means I don't Undecided  It strikes me as being out of balance somehow.

Ahem...  I find that recording extremely dull and not very well played.  I've been listening to loads of Brandenburg recordings lately, and the only one I remotely like is Musica Antiqua Köln's, even if some of it sounds completely mad.  At least it's interesting.  The new Pinnock one has some fine playing on it but is a bit boring.  There's going to be a new AAM one out some time next year, but I know too much about all the politics and unhappiness behind it so I doubt I'll be able to enjoy it much.
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« Reply #4124 on: 11:14:08, 14-11-2008 »

The Brandenburgs, prompted by noticing that someone was viewing a Brandenburg thread. 'Haven't heard that in a while' I thought. It's the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment recording on Virgin Veritas and although I've had it for several years, I still can't decide if I actually like it. Probably means I don't Undecided  It strikes me as being out of balance somehow.

Ahem...  I find that recording extremely dull and not very well played.  I've been listening to loads of Brandenburg recordings lately, and the only one I remotely like is Musica Antiqua Köln's, even if some of it sounds completely mad.  At least it's interesting.  The new Pinnock one has some fine playing on it but is a bit boring.  There's going to be a new AAM one out some time next year, but I know too much about all the politics and unhappiness behind it so I doubt I'll be able to enjoy it much.

That's it strina. The word I was looking for is 'dull' ++ And plodding in parts.
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