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Some interesting things there, xyzzzz__. I haven't heard anything by either James Erber or George Lewis - do you have any recommendations?
I have fired up the turntable and am currently working my way through some of my favourite records in this boxset - Le Courlis Cendre is currently spinning;
Tantris, is there anything in that set that is not in the original Erato Messiaen 18 CD set? (Note, the issue from the late '80s, not the poorly revamped Warner isue from a year or so ago). |
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« Reply #46 on: 01:20:58, 12-02-2007 » |
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is there anything in that set that is not in the original Erato Messiaen 18 CD set? For example, is La Fauvette des Jardins complete?  James Erber - Strange Moments of Intimacy Anyone mind me saying that I premiered that? Yes? Oh well. I did anyway. Yes indeed, James has some fantastic ensemble pieces that really should have had wider circulation than bootleg cassettes. |
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« Reply #47 on: 01:31:58, 12-02-2007 » |
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Come on, Ollie, tell us the story about the missing aprox. 6'28".
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richard barrett
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« Reply #48 on: 11:25:43, 12-02-2007 » |
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George Lewis's "Sequel" is for me the best thing he's ever done under his own name, up there with his contributions to the Anthony Braxton quartet in the 1970s. Plus (this of course has no bearing on whether anyone here would enjoy his music or not, but I feel like saying it anyway) he's one of the most inspiring musicians it's ever been my privilege and pleasure to know.
The Holliger string quartet: yes!
As for me, I'm listening to Tod Dockstader's "Aerial 1" for the first time. It's electronic music based entirely on material from shortwave broadcasts, a little soft-edged and meanderingly episodic for my taste, but with a depth of perspective that's not to common in electronic music, and worth a listen by anyone who's interested in that kind of thing.
Which I dare say is not many of you.
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R.B Some months ago I recorded part of a H&N concert on the end of a part-filled mini disc, ending up with the perfect morning concert of Alwynne Pritchard's "Spring" David Sawer's "Cats Eyes" and your "Lost". It is a guilty pleasure I have enjoyed playing not only today but on many mornings. My thanks to you and, of course, IP.
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Thanks to you W.
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« Reply #51 on: 12:06:36, 12-02-2007 » |
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Re: George Lewis - To add to his work w/Braxton I have a tape of his LP on Sackville, though I'm not sure you can get hold of that, and then there is the terrific "Hommage to Charles Parker". His work with Voyager is regarded as patchy at best but looking at some of what's going on in electroacoustic improv today he was onto something.
Now I wish that ensemble would visit us sometime. "Sequel" has some of the best playing I've heard since I saw Braxton's sextet a couple of years ago (I think you can get that perf on a CD somewhere - prob on Leo).
Re: Holliger has anyone hunted down some of those CDs on ECM? I'd like to hear more from him.
"James has some fantastic ensemble pieces that really should have had wider circulation than bootleg cassettes."
Hmm..Bootleg cassettes :-)
I have an Erato dbl LP of Messiaen playing a work of his for organ.
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« Reply #52 on: 12:20:29, 12-02-2007 » |
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All of the Holliger CDs on ECM are excellent, especially the Scardanelli Cycle, Violin Concerto, Schneewittchen and Lieder ohne Worte.
James Erber has indeed written many beautiful pieces. A case for NMC, I would think.
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« Reply #53 on: 13:00:37, 12-02-2007 » |
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Can I echo those who are praising James Erber's wonderful music. In particular, his fantastic Music for 25 Solo Strings absolutely needs another outing soon.
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #54 on: 15:09:52, 12-02-2007 » |
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I'm listening to my own very fine CD of George Gershwin's Michael Finnissy arrangements. This is one of the finest recordings of piano playing ever captured on plastic disc, certainly the best disc mentioned so far in this thread, and the intellectual gravity of my Marxist sleeve note will take you wet public school middle-class liberals down a peg or two!
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« Reply #55 on: 15:24:07, 12-02-2007 » |
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ian_GPace: That's not really on, mate. I mean this 'impersonating someone to ridicule them' lark.  |
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« Reply #56 on: 16:10:47, 12-02-2007 » |
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Tantris, is there anything in that set that is not in the original Erato Messiaen 18 CD set? (Note, the issue from the late '80s, not the poorly revamped Warner isue from a year or so ago).
I don't know, as I never managed to get a copy of the original 'Messiaen Edition'. On these LPs you get all of the solo piano music, except for the Petites Esquisses d'Oiseaux, and of course Visions de l'Amen is not included either. I'm intrigued about missing bits of La Fauvette - on the LPs, it is split across two LPs, so perhaps there was an edit to make it fit, but I haven't noticed anything missing. Could you please explain? It would be nice to have Loriod's first version of the Catalogue rereleased on CD. |
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« Reply #57 on: 18:24:20, 12-02-2007 » |
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Come on, Ollie, tell us the story about the missing aprox. 6'28". Actually, Bryn, I don't know the story - I suspect someone's told me (maybe it was you?) and I've forgotten it. But when I first listened score in hand to the recording of La Fauvette des Jardins in my copy of the 1988 Erato Messiaen box I was rather shocked to find it starting several pages in. |
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« Reply #58 on: 19:04:47, 12-02-2007 » |
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'twas no I, Ollie. i was hoping you knew the story behind it.
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« Reply #59 on: 20:18:09, 12-02-2007 » |
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Damn. Mr Google's not been much help either. Who's going to sort this out for us? Maybe Ian (the real one) knows. Tantris mentions Loriod's first version of the Catalogue - was there a complete one before the one that's in the Erato (now Warner) box or was that the recording of four of the pieces from 1959? (That info from Malcolm Ball's site: http://www.malcolmball.co.uk/messiaen/) |
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