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« Reply #660 on: 21:35:56, 07-07-2007 » |
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Hello Stanley!
I don't know if you know this passage from Mann's Doktor Faustus. If he wasn't describing the end of Mahler's Ninth he should have been.
What remains, the note on which the work dies away… is the final evanescent sound, slowly fading away on a pianissimo fermata. Then nothing – silence and night. But the note which continues to oscillate in the silence, a sound which no longer exists and which only the soul can still imagine hearing, that sound is the echo of our grief, while yet portending the end of that grief, transforming its meaning and standing out as a light in the darkness.
I have too many Mahler 9ths to bother counting them; I think they all have something to offer (the only one I've ever divested myself of is the second Karajan - I finally found it too self-indulgent although millions would disagree with me).
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« Reply #661 on: 21:55:37, 07-07-2007 » |
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Dowland lute music played by Paul O'Dette. Not even the great Hopkinson Smith is as good in this repertoire in my humble opinion. The sound of the orpharion on a few of the pieces brings tears to my eyes.
My favoured Mahler 9 at the moment is Maderna (despite George falling off his chair in the first movement, although he says it wasn't him), followed closely by Barbirolli. I once listened to all my Mahler 9 recordings end to end. Kick it till it breaks, as King Kennytone (paraphrasing Nietzsche I think) says. I'd also like to hear the Barenboim, though I've gone off his 7th after initial enthusiasm.
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« Reply #662 on: 21:57:41, 07-07-2007 » |
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Mahler's Ninth is not a work I've ever 'got'.
I listened to it on a tape in my car for the journey to and from work for about a week and I couldn't follow it.
Perhaps it's time to listen to it undistracted by Nettlebed traffic.
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« Reply #663 on: 22:00:32, 07-07-2007 » |
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I do recommend listening undistracted, if such a thing is indeed possible nowadays. I don't think it has a great deal one can afford to miss.
Any other fans of the Ancerl here?
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« Reply #664 on: 23:59:57, 07-07-2007 » |
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That's one of a bunch of Ancerl "gold editon" cds I got last year. Somehow it remains to be spun. Perhaps tomorrow night.
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« Reply #665 on: 00:06:17, 08-07-2007 » |
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« Reply #666 on: 00:11:46, 08-07-2007 » |
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HH (when your head's better) As I'm sure you know, the car's not a place for appreciating formal subtleties (because your whole attention isn't on the music - is it  ) or pieces with a significant proportion of quiet music, or for that matter with much dynamic variation. Unless you have a chauffeur-driven Roller, and if that's what it takes for you to appreciate Mahler 9 I suggest you get one. Probably after you get a job though. Hope you're OK by the time you read this. I used to have that problem but it does seem to have got better with advancing years (unlike everything else). |
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« Reply #667 on: 08:03:48, 08-07-2007 » |
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Mahler's Ninth is not a work I've ever 'got'.
Even Schönberg - Mahler devotee that he was - seemed not to "get it" either (see his chapter on his elder compatriot in his book Style and Idea, p. 34); on the contrary, I have more than once raised an eyebrow or three when, having spoken about " The Ninth Symphony", it is realised that I was referring to this work and not to the one usually described as " The Ninth Symphony". To me, it is one of the supreme symphonies of the past century, for all that it emerged so early in that century; it "got" to me at once... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #668 on: 10:42:32, 08-07-2007 » |
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Last cpl of days:
Got round to the last cpl of CDs I acquired at concerts - Barrett's solo works CD on NMC and James Clarke as played by ensemble SurPlus/Hodges.
Late late night listening to Finnissy's Motets after hearing bits of it on BBC4's Clasiical Britannia prog.
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« Reply #669 on: 21:12:16, 10-07-2007 » |
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Walton - Henry V: A Shakespeare Scenario
Sam West / BBCSO / BBC Singers / Trinity Boys Choir (including eruanto) / Slatkin
Issued with BBC Music Mag in March 2002.
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Just finished playing back this from hard disc, recorded this morning. Others might like to catch one or more of the later repeats. |
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« Reply #671 on: 21:37:47, 10-07-2007 » |
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NS Franz Liszt, "Canticle of the Sun" played by Leslie Howard on Hyperion Label.
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« Reply #672 on: 21:50:43, 10-07-2007 » |
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Chafing Dish, that is a most excellent CD!
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Best regards,
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« Reply #673 on: 22:42:07, 10-07-2007 » |
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Just finished playing back this from hard disc, recorded this morning. Others might like to catch one or more of the later repeats. Others might not want to be paying cash into the Murdoch coffers, Bryn.  |
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« Reply #674 on: 22:47:27, 10-07-2007 » |
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Chafing Dish, that is a most excellent CD!
I agree that it is quite beautiful. Not so much my 3=month old, who fell asleep rather quickly. Such sweet and strange music, especially the "Zum Grabe: Die Wiege des zukünftigen Lebens" third mvt of Du berceau jusqu'à la tombe |
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