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Author Topic: Mahler - Let's talk Mahler  (Read 13875 times)
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« Reply #75 on: 17:00:17, 17-02-2007 »

After a facsimile score of Mahler 7 at vastly reduced cost ? A friend of mine recommends this.

http://www.broekmans.com
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« Reply #76 on: 19:24:16, 19-02-2007 »

I see most Mahler songs as being written with a male voice in mind in the sense that it's most often a male narrator. Sometimes that works in performances better than other times - in Kindertotenlieder the male voice in concert is extremely hard to bring out against the orchestra because of the range it's in, even though the texts are absolutely from the father's point of view. (I believe Mahler always had a male singer perform those songs in concert - even a tenor on one occasion in New York.)

I have the Bernstein/Hampson;

Me too, you will not be surprised to hear!
This disc also contains the Rueckert Lieder...I think that Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen is one of the two most beautiful songs ever written. (The other one is also by Mahler, it's Wo die schoenen Trompeten blasen...which Hampson sings in a recording with Geoffrey Parsons.

My experience this afternoon testifies to the healing power of Mahler's Rueckert Lieder, esp. Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen....I was feeling really ill (having eaten  a rather suspect take-away last night! Embarrassed), and I switched on Radio 3 - it wasn't Hampson/Bernstein, it was Christiane Stotijn, with the Concertgebouw under Haitinck, but the effect was the same...I lay on the bed with my eyes closed, and let Mahler heal my bruised sensibilities!
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« Reply #77 on: 20:11:38, 19-02-2007 »

After a facsimile score of Mahler 7 at vastly reduced cost ?
Oh dear. This is going to be another one of those expensive days...
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« Reply #78 on: 20:33:34, 19-02-2007 »

Simone Young will be conducting the Resurrection in London later this year. Does anyone have a view on her conducting? (IIRC she had a difficult time at the Vienna Opera. Can't remember the details though.)
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« Reply #79 on: 21:47:06, 19-02-2007 »

http://www.andante.com/profiles/Mahler/symph9.cfm
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« Reply #80 on: 22:00:07, 19-02-2007 »

Er... did he really miss the fact that the opening of the finale is the most direct reference in the whole piece to the Beethoven Lebewohl sonata? Or did he not think it was important? Even though it supplies the 'very unusual harmonic progression' he notices in the middle of bar 3?

A strange omission, that. Thanks for posting it though, Rob.
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« Reply #81 on: 22:03:44, 19-02-2007 »

He probably knows anyway. Had Mahler lived just a little longer, he'd have conducted The Rite Of Spring, for sure.
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« Reply #82 on: 17:20:25, 20-02-2007 »

I remember that one; It stood out to me as being a concert by Mackerras where the music and music making didn't sparkle
The albert hall organ made my belly rumble, though.
Do you know what I mean? (I think I do...)
Anyone heard Norringtons' Mahler?
Good/Bad?

And while I'm here, the Schumann symphonies reorched. by Mahler have always seemed to escape my attention.
Does anyone think they are worth bothering about?
There's a new Chailly recording...

http://www.deccaclassics.com/newsandnewreleases/february2007/4758352.html
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« Reply #83 on: 17:40:55, 20-02-2007 »

And while I'm here, the Schumann symphonies reorched. by Mahler have always seemed to escape my attention.
Does anyone think they are worth bothering about?
I want to hear them on Mahler-period instruments... Wink
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« Reply #84 on: 17:43:40, 20-02-2007 »

I don't think there is such thing as Mahler period instruments..  Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #85 on: 17:45:37, 20-02-2007 »

ha!
you'd be wanting this bunch:

http://www.nqho.com/nqhosownrecordlabel/index.php
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« Reply #86 on: 17:48:30, 20-02-2007 »

Thank you tonybob. How about orchestra playing their own instruments. (bad joke).

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« Reply #87 on: 17:51:59, 20-02-2007 »

Actually, the Brahms release on the website doesn't sound half bad.

No. It sounds totally bad./Opilec.
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« Reply #88 on: 17:54:08, 20-02-2007 »

I don't think there is such thing as Mahler period instruments..  Undecided Undecided

The Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment have performed Mahler on period instruments - I saw them do Mahler 1 and the Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen a few years back. They did a Mahler study day which included an open rehearsal which was fascinating to watch.
I've not heard any of Norrington's Mahler recordings with his Stuttgart Orchestra, but I'd imagine there would be leaner textures and faster tempi.
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« Reply #89 on: 18:02:49, 20-02-2007 »

I've not heard any of Norrington's Mahler recordings with his Stuttgart Orchestra, but I'd imagine there would be leaner textures and faster tempi.

Well quite, but there's more too it than that: gut strings, wooden flutes (even then!) and the actions on the brass instruments were quite different. And being conducted by Norrington doesn't necessarily mean faster tempi.  Smiley
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