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As I was glancing through the MDT website, I came across a couple of interesting discs due for release next month, it occurred to me a thread flagging interesting new things could be handy so: This disc of Tennsted conducting the Glagolitic Mass.  And this of Jansons doing Mahler 1 with the Concertgebouw. Actually, I was a little disappointed as I first stumbled across it on the orchestra's website. And it seems to be out now over there.  |
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Alison
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« Reply #1 on: 22:46:04, 14-04-2007 » |
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Great news about the Tennstedt.
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« Reply #2 on: 13:52:02, 15-04-2007 » |
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Another BBC Legends disc,the Becham Beethoven Ninth,is the one I'm eager to hear. As with the thrilling Leeds Festival 'Missa Solemnis' which SOMM issued recently, I had no idea there was a Beecham recording of this work.
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« Reply #3 on: 16:21:05, 15-04-2007 » |
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My goodness, those BBC Legends covers are so ugly.  |
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« Reply #4 on: 18:40:35, 15-04-2007 » |
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Aren't they just, pim! Though at least they don't have what appear to be fragments of an unusually-coloured ecstasy tablet on them  Having said that, the Jansons performance - judging from the extract I heard a couple of weeks ago - is definitely something to look forward to.  |
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« Reply #5 on: 18:48:31, 15-04-2007 » |
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Out of interest where did you hear the exert? I'm looking forward to it too, though I did find the recent 6th a bit of a letdown (when compared to his earlier LSO Live effort). Interestingly, some of the quotes on the Concertgebouw website seem to suggest it's part of a projected cycle. Personally, I don't mind the BBC Legends covers. |
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« Reply #6 on: 18:54:53, 15-04-2007 » |
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Out of interest where did you hear the exert? I work for their UK distributor (also LSO's, as it happens, so I'm at liberty to agree with you re number 6 ...  ). As I say, I only heard 5 mins or so, but it was certainly v impressive indeed sonically. For anything more profound than that I'd have to sit down with it, which despite my being surrounded by CDs all day happens much more rarely than I'd like it to! |
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« Reply #7 on: 18:57:22, 15-04-2007 » |
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I'm not an admirer of Jansons.
Speaking of legendary recordings: are there records out there of Bernard Haitink's performances with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra? I've seen some beautiful concerts on Dutch television in the early 1990s.
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« Reply #8 on: 19:05:54, 15-04-2007 » |
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I remember their Prokofiev 6 with Gergiev at the Proms (must be 6/7 years ago) before VG went stellar and in a hurry. Beautiful sonorities and ensemble., so with Haitink I'm sure the moreso. Let's hope there's a contractual will to put them out.
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« Reply #9 on: 19:20:18, 15-04-2007 » |
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I remember their Prokofiev 6 with Gergiev at the Proms (must be 6/7 years ago) before VG went stellar and in a hurry. Beautiful sonorities and ensemble., so with Haitink I'm sure the moreso. Let's hope there's a contractual will to put them out.
Haitink did a stunning Mahler 2 with the Rotterdam Philharmonic in 1990, a very sophisticated Le baiser de la fée by Stravinksky and a very dramatic Passacaglia by Webern (Haitink seemed very impressed by the orchestra after the performance of this 10-minute piece). I've seen these performances on television and I never forgot them. The Mahler 2 was issued by the Rotterdam Philharmonic years ago, but it isn't available at the moment (I doubt it will become available again very soon). Yes, Haitink did some beautiful concerts in Rotterdam during the time he was having a difficult relationship with Amsterdam. |
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Alison
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« Reply #10 on: 19:52:53, 15-04-2007 » |
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The Rotterdam Orchestra is comparatively under recorded is it not ?
Some recordings with Haitink would be very much up my street. I recall a Pathetique Symphony shown on Performance TV some years ago. A Haitink Baiser de la fee would be of great interest.
I am afraid I cannot get at all enthusiastic about any Mahler cycle from Janons in Amsterdam, or elsewhere.
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« Reply #11 on: 19:57:29, 15-04-2007 » |
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Many years ago (1980) I saw the Rotterdam Phil under David Zinman do Heldenleben in Liverpool - wonderful, wonderful performance. The Arte Nova release a few years back was a happy reminder of that evening.
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« Reply #12 on: 20:12:04, 15-04-2007 » |
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The Rotterdam Orchestra is comparatively under recorded is it not ?
Some recordings with Haitink would be very much up my street. I recall a Pathetique Symphony shown on Performance TV some years ago. A Haitink Baiser de la fee would be of great interest.
I am afraid I cannot get at all enthusiastic about any Mahler cycle from Janons in Amsterdam, or elsewhere.
The Rotterdam Philharmonic made quite a few recordings with their former chief conductors Edo de Waart and James Conlon. There are also a few records of its founder Eduard Flipse (one of the very first recordings of Mahler's Sixth Symphony and the very first of the Eighth!) and there is also a beautiful recording of Faure's Requiem conducted by the wonderful Jean Fournet, another chief conductor. David Zinman was also chief conductor for a while and he also made a few recordings. Gergiev hasn't made a lot of recordings with the orchestra and I don't think his relationship with the orchestra was all that good. According to the Dutch Television Archives website there is indeed a tv recording of the Pathetique Symphony by Haitink and there's also one of Brahms Fourth Symphony. Interesting! |
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« Reply #13 on: 20:25:24, 15-04-2007 » |
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Somehow I didn't think you would Alison. My only encounter with the Rotterdam Phil was a rather disappointing concert in the 2005 Edinburgh festival under Blomstedt (a conductor who's never really grabbed me) of one of Mozart's sinfonia concertantes and Tchaik 4. |
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« Reply #14 on: 20:36:45, 15-04-2007 » |
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Somehow I didn't think you would Alison. My only encounter with the Rotterdam Phil was a rather disappointing concert in the 2005 Edinburgh festival under Blomstedt (a conductor who's never really grabbed me) of one of Mozart's sinfonia concertantes and Tchaik 4. I agree with you, Tam. The Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra really needs an inspiring conductor. Without that, concerts can become disappointing. Last month I heard it play the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony conducted by Claus-Peter Flohr. It wasn't a very exciting concert, I have to say. It would help this orchestra tremendously when it could work closely together with a very committed conductor, who really wants to work on the sound of the orchestra and who isn't too much abroad. Impossible, I'm afraid. |
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