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« Reply #105 on: 12:57:20, 01-07-2007 » |
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The ban does not come into effect until 06:00 hours.
Well I wasn't going to drink whisky at 6am and I was largely assuming that most smokers on the boards at midnight were likely to be in private spaces. I have mixed feelings about the smoking ban. While it makes my life nicer and sweeter-smelling, it's an infringement on personal liberties and if you're going to ban cigarettes surely alcohol should be next... Wasn't there some kind of research recently that held up alcohol as being the worse drug available? |
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« Reply #106 on: 13:12:21, 01-07-2007 » |
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Well I wasn't going to drink whisky at 6am Fair enough, I'm more a cognac man myself. if you're going to ban cigarettes You folks have actually banned cigarettes? Wow.  It's odd, whenever I speak to Germans about the 'no smoking in substantially enclosed public spaces' law even the smokers say they'd be for one, and yet the chance of them introducing something like that here seems vanishingly small. Over your side of the Channel even the non-smokers here have mixed feelings about it and yet you've got one. |
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« Reply #107 on: 13:15:33, 01-07-2007 » |
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It's odd, whenever I speak to Germans about the 'no smoking in substantially enclosed public spaces' law even the smokers say they'd be for one, and yet the chance of them introducing something like that here seems vanishingly small. Over your side of the Channel even the non-smokers here have mixed feelings about it and yet you've got one.
Germany seems the one country in Europe that has no firm plans for such a ban - why might this be? Considering, say, that Italy has one in operation and France brings one in in Spring next year - both being countries with a great many smokers (more than Germany?). |
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« Reply #108 on: 13:20:11, 01-07-2007 » |
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You folks have actually banned cigarettes? Wow. You know what I mean! I hope  Wasn't there some discussion about making smoking in the home in the presence of small children punishable as child abuse? Now that's a scary thought. |
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« Reply #109 on: 13:35:22, 01-07-2007 » |
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hh, the Royal College of Nursing have asked that legislation be put into place that, prior to a visit from a District Nurse, neither patients nor family members smoke in the patient`s room for a hour before the visit. And Patricia Hewitt was on record as saying the ideal would be to eventually stop people from smoking in their own homes. In the meantime people are dying of mesothelioma, nearly always an industrial related disease as a result of being exposed to asbestos, and their families have an almighty fight on their hands to get compensation. The figures will increase as it can take 25 years for the disease to manifest. Strangely, the Government are very quiet on this matter.
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« Reply #110 on: 13:44:24, 01-07-2007 » |
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Mort, do you get any sense that Alan Johnson is going to be any less draconian than Nanny Hewitt?
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« Reply #112 on: 14:00:09, 01-07-2007 » |
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Mort, do you get any sense that Alan Johnson is going to be any less draconian than Nanny Hewitt?
Mart, I`m probably too sunk in cynicism at the mo to cast a favourable gaze at any member of this Government.  Ooops, sorry. Being an old Grumpy Guts  |
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« Reply #113 on: 14:39:16, 01-07-2007 » |
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Commiserations on  but if you want to see how well a large group of "seasoned smokers" can cope with it all just click below and admire everyone's breath control... WATCH! |
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« Reply #114 on: 15:22:58, 25-08-2008 » |
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In case anyone was wondering... In theory, there's been a smoking ban in force in NRW (the Bundesland where I live) since the beginning of July. (The law has been there since the beginning of the year but there was an agreement not to actually enforce it for six months as a transition period.) But there's a catch. It's still legal to have a smokers' club under certain conditions - you can read them here if you speak German and are curious. So lots of bars in my area have simply registered as smokers' clubs. You have to register as a member but that's the only thing the guest has to do. And there's a movement to have membership transferable so that people only have to sign up in one place. In other words, a fairly pathetic result for all concerned and in most smaller bars everyone puffs away as ever. |
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« Reply #115 on: 15:34:05, 25-08-2008 » |
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Ollie, the Brits don't stand for any of that nonsense! If you want to puff, you go outside and shiver. Although I believe there is a club in Norf Lunnon that has managed to obtain a special licence allowing it's Patrons to smoke. But only if they smoke cigars  Hmm.... |
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« Reply #116 on: 15:46:38, 25-08-2008 » |
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Not just the Brits, Mort - most of Europe. Germany's very much the exception. Along with Spain, to be fair.
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« Reply #117 on: 16:16:35, 25-08-2008 » |
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I remember staying in a hotel near Kusadasi and having the German woman at the next table holding her fag at far away from her as possible, ie under my nose, as I was on the next table.
If she was enjoying it more than her food, why did she bother coming into the dining room in the first place, and why did she not hold it close to herself to get the full benefit?
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« Reply #118 on: 16:37:07, 25-08-2008 » |
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I remember staying in a hotel near Kusadasi and having the German woman at the next table holding her fag at far away from her as possible, ie under my nose, as I was on the next table.
If she was enjoying it more than her food, why did she bother coming into the dining room in the first place, and why did she not hold it close to herself to get the full benefit?
I've only been living in Germany six years but as soon as I've sussed out their verschiedene Besonderheiten I'll let you know. |
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« Reply #119 on: 11:38:16, 30-08-2008 » |
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I find it rather frustrating that the people with whom I want to spend time are often smokers simply for the smell of clothes the next day.
In Darmstadt I found that I had to alternate my entire wardrobe (due to lack of space in suitcase I was unable to pack more than two pairs of jeans and two pairs of jumpers and most t-shirts had to do double duty) from day to day, in order to avoid smelling like an ash tray. It was my choice to do so, and given the choice I would chose it again! It reminds me of how much more washing I used to do before the smoking ban was in place.
Incidentally, I've always been convinced that kissing someone after they'd just finished a cigarette would be a horrible experience. It isn't.
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