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« on: 11:39:55, 14-05-2007 » |
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It has been noticed that a fair number of posters here have a certain predilection for the evil weed! So, bearing in mind that we all have only about a month-and-a-half before our activities are going to become much harder to carry out in public, I thought it might be nice to have a thread for shameless smokers. All others entering this thread must be warned that they are likely to inhale large amounts of cyber-smoke. To set the ball rolling, I wondered what anyone thought of these two articles on smoking in today's Guardian? http://www.guardian.co.uk/smoking/Story/0,,2078826,00.htmlhttp://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,,2078888,00.html |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #1 on: 11:59:34, 14-05-2007 » |
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Any chance of Patricia Hewitt going up in smoke?  Burning Dog A lifelong NON-Smoker |
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« Reply #2 on: 12:25:33, 14-05-2007 » |
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Not only is the new law wrong, it's actually completely backwards!I've never smoked, never wanted to, and probably never will. It makes me feel ill to be next to (or within yards of) a lit cigarette. I think it's wrong that the government should dictate what people can and can't do on the premises of a private citizen (i.e. the landlord of a pub) with his permission. You see, if a pub is full of people smoking, I can (and do) turn around and leave. On the other hand, I think the governemnt should take action to protect me on public land such as, for example, town footpaths. If the footpath in my town is full of people smoking (and apparently it will get worse, as people start lurking outside pub doors while smoking), what I am I to do?  |
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« Reply #3 on: 12:36:08, 14-05-2007 » |
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Say what you like, but I think people should be able to go to the pub without being smoked out by fumeurs. Smoke-free areas in pubs and restaurants are often inadequate, and it's high time the balance were redressed. It's much easier to avoid smokers in an outdoor environment than it is indoors, so I am looking forward to July 1st with speculative smoke-free and bibulous anticipation.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #4 on: 12:55:57, 14-05-2007 » |
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I suppose this isn't meant to be an anti-smoking thread, but I've always wondered how anyone invented smoking in the first place. I mean, dry some leaves, roll them up, set fire to them, breathe in the result - why would anyone think of doing that???
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« Reply #5 on: 13:09:02, 14-05-2007 » |
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As one who works in the world of Cancer care, I must say STOP, STOP, STOP ! I have witnessed so much misery caused by the effects on health by cigarette smoke...it really is the evil weed. You are too precious to risk your life in this way.  x Jan x |
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« Reply #6 on: 13:16:55, 14-05-2007 » |
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Listen to Bob Newhart's "Introducing Tobacco to Civilization".
"You wanna grab the extension? It's Nutty Walt."
"You bought 40 tons of leaves? I don't know if you noticed Walt, but come the Fall here in England, we're pretty much up to our ..."
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« Reply #7 on: 13:21:46, 14-05-2007 » |
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I suppose this isn't meant to be an anti-smoking thread, but I've always wondered how anyone invented smoking in the first place. I mean, dry some leaves, roll them up, set fire to them, breathe in the result - why would anyone think of doing that???
Mary, funny you should say that but ..... I remember a howlingly funny sketch that said almost exactly the same thing. It was by an American comedian (possibly Milton Berle? Someone here will remember I`m sure) and took the form of a member of Elizabeth the First`s Court responding to Drake`s idea of what to do with these new leaves that he had brought back with him. Very funny. Ian, I wondered who might start up a Smoking Room. I had been toying with the idea but have been too busy engaging with the evil weed to get round to it Haven`t seen The Grauniad yet today but I noticed an article in the Saturday one stating that the American Baord of Film Censors want smoking to be subject to the same kind of censorship as violence and sex. Apparently if there is an `historical context` it can stay but the rules will `stop short of being retroactive`. Just as well. Imagine `Now Voyager` sans fags. Bogart bereft of ciggie shots? Now where did I put my lighter .....? |
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John W
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« Reply #8 on: 13:23:59, 14-05-2007 » |
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I've always wondered how anyone invented smoking in the first place. I mean, dry some leaves, roll them up, set fire to them, breathe in the result - why would anyone think of doing that???
Mary, why not ask how man came to develop cooked meat? Why set fire to food? These discoveries were likely made by chance. Ancient man walking through a forest after a forest fire would find carcasses of burnt animals and eat them. Hmm they taste good, and we didn't have diahrrea (how'd you spell it) the next day, must be good to burn (cook) meat. So, man saw uses for fire, cook food and keep warm/dry. Once he mastered how to make a small fire he would use anything that burned to keep it alight, any branches and leaves. Hmmm those guys round that smoky fire are having a good time...... Way out man  John W |
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« Reply #9 on: 13:27:47, 14-05-2007 » |
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Listen to Bob Newhart's "Introducing Tobacco to Civilization".
"You wanna grab the extension? It's Nutty Walt."
"You bought 40 tons of leaves? I don't know if you noticed Walt, but come the Fall here in England, we're pretty much up to our ..."
Here's the script. VERY funny. Wish I could find an audio or video though, cos it's all in his delivery... http://www.monologues.co.uk/Bob_Newhart/Tobacco.htm |
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Morticia
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« Reply #10 on: 13:31:41, 14-05-2007 » |
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Whoops, sorry Peter. Didn`t see your post. Of course, Bob Newhart! Must track his stuff down.
For the mystery of setting fire to leaves - why did someone first think `Hmm, think I`ll just take the lid off this pressurised container of hairspray, inhale the fumes and see what happens`. Anyone for glue? And what about that kooky idea of getting some grapes, jump up and down on them in your bare feet, let the result ferment and then put it in a bottle?
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Morticia
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« Reply #11 on: 13:34:08, 14-05-2007 » |
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Listen to Bob Newhart's "Introducing Tobacco to Civilization".
"You wanna grab the extension? It's Nutty Walt."
"You bought 40 tons of leaves? I don't know if you noticed Walt, but come the Fall here in England, we're pretty much up to our ..."
Here's the script. VERY funny. Wish I could find an audio or video though, cos it's all in his delivery... http://www.monologues.co.uk/Bob_Newhart/Tobacco.htmAbsolutely right, Martle. You`ve just got to HEAR it!! |
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John W
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« Reply #12 on: 13:34:45, 14-05-2007 » |
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why did someone first think `Hmm, think I`ll just take the lid off this pressurised container of hairspray, inhale the fumes and see what happens`. Anyone for glue? And what about that kooky idea of getting some grapes, jump up and down on them in your bare feet, let the result ferment and then put it in a bottle?
Morticia, I guess because I'm a scientist I don't ask stupid questions like that or the one about the leaves.  I work out the answers before asking stupid questions  John W |
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #13 on: 13:36:27, 14-05-2007 » |
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Wow, all this anti-smoking stuff makes me so stressed that I have to light a fag to calm down!
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« Reply #14 on: 13:37:13, 14-05-2007 » |
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Anyway, Hitchens beats Hoggart hands down in that first article of Ian's. But I probably would say that. |
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