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« Reply #3810 on: 21:13:54, 27-01-2008 » |
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Kipling's son was the original of Dan in Puck of Pook's Hill. As you say he died in WW1 and is commemorated on the War Memorial in Burwash, the village nearest Kipling's Sussex home. (It's a National Trust property now: Batemans.) €The memorial is a pillar outside the church, (scene of one of the stories in Rewards and Fairies, the sequel to Puck.)
Kipling's daughter, Elsie the original of Una in PPH, grew up to own another future NT property near Cambridge, Wimpole Hall, IIRC.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #3811 on: 21:35:10, 27-01-2008 » |
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As well as the DVD and book of the screenplay, there is what appears to be a very interesting book about Kipling's search for his missing son. I've never visited Bateman's...something I should try and rectify.
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« Reply #3812 on: 15:10:14, 28-01-2008 » |
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I've never visited Bateman's...something I should try and rectify.
It is less grand than many NT places, and that goes for the volunteers as well if I remember. If you know and love Puck of Pook's Hill, it is a must. You can see the meadow where Dan and Una act Midsummer's Night Dream, and the herbaceous border has all the herbs mentioned in A Doctor of Medicine. The church at Burwash is the scene of The Conversion of St Wilfred.
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« Reply #3813 on: 15:17:58, 28-01-2008 » |
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It also had donkeys in that meadow on the occasions I have been should (perhaps unlikely) you need any additional draw. I'd agree with Don B. It's well worth a visit.
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« Reply #3814 on: 21:46:51, 28-01-2008 » |
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Yes, Don B, Kipling is our connection Not that Mr Kipling!! Martinů – The Butterfly That StampedKoechlin – The Jungle BookGrainger – Jungle BookDebussy - La danse de Puck (Puck of Pook’s Hill)So do I IGI. Very good it i9s to!! One of the many cds Ive bought while being offline!! Michael Berkeley I have a good CD of the Koechlin, conducted by Zinman.
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« Reply #3815 on: 23:54:51, 28-01-2008 » |
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Here is what we think is termed a "quickie":
Bach Clementi Tchaikovsky Holst Malipiero
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« Reply #3816 on: 00:13:03, 29-01-2008 » |
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« Reply #3817 on: 00:26:24, 29-01-2008 » |
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Here is what we think is termed a "quickie":
Bach Clementi Tchaikovsky Holst Malipiero
Is the connection anything to do with musical 'borrowing' or arrangments? Bach borrowed from Vivaldi e.g. BWV 593, the Organ Concerto in A minor (after Antonio Vivaldi's Concerto Op. 3/8 RV522 for violin) Holst borrowed the tune called Thaxted, in Jupiter of The Planets, which we now know as I Vow to Thee My CountryMalipiero - Cimarosiana, five symphonic fragments from keyboard works of CimarosaTchaikovsky - his 4th Suite, ' Mozartiana' borrows Mozart's music, whereas his own music was 'borrowed' by Stravinsky in The Fairy's KissClementi also borrowed from Mozart in his Introduction, Andante grazioso and Coda, after 'Don Giovanni'; his own Gradus ad Parnassum was, of course, alluded to by Debussy in his Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum (the first movement of his suite Children's Corner) Probably completely wrong, of course!
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« Reply #3818 on: 00:31:52, 29-01-2008 » |
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Bach Clementi Tchaikovsky Holst Malipiero
Is the connection anything to do with musical 'borrowing' or arrangments? Bach borrowed from Vivaldi e.g. BWV 593, the Organ Concerto in A minor (after Antonio Vivaldi's Concerto Op. 3/8 RV522 for violin) Holst borrowed the tune called Thaxted, in Jupiter of The Planets, which we now know as I Vow to Thee My CountryMalipiero - Cimarosiana, five symphonic fragments from keyboard works of CimarosaTchaikovsky - his 4th Suite, ' Mozartiana' borrows Mozart's music, whereas his own music was 'borrowed' by Stravinsky in The Fairy's KissClementi also borrowed from Mozart in his Introduction, Andante grazioso and Coda, after 'Don Giovanni'; his own Gradus ad Parnassum was, of course, alluded to by Debussy in his Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum (the first movement of his suite Children's Corner) Probably completely wrong, of course! Ingenious Mr. IGI, but regrettably not what we had in mind!
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« Reply #3819 on: 23:30:25, 29-01-2008 » |
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No comers here either - time to add another name to the list:
Scarlatti Bach Clementi Tchaikovsky Holst Malipiero
(Hope this has not been done already - we have not looked through the whole thread.)
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« Reply #3820 on: 00:10:49, 30-01-2008 » |
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Is it anything to do with surnames that are shared by more than one composer?
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« Reply #3821 on: 00:12:22, 30-01-2008 » |
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Now that looks a good call, Daniel. When Syd posted Scarlatti, I nearly asked which one, but didn't think about the other five!
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« Reply #3822 on: 00:32:21, 30-01-2008 » |
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Is it anything to do with surnames that are shared by more than one composer? Correct Member Daniel! There was or is more than one of each of them. Scarlattis: Alessandro and Domenico Bachs: too many to enumerate Clementis: Muzio and Aldo Tchaikovskies: Pyotr and Boris Holsts: Gustav and Imogen Malipieri: Francesco, Gian Francesco and Riccardo Gabrieli, with Andrea, Giovanni and even Domenico, was to have been the next name, closely followed by Davies and Jones . . .
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« Reply #3823 on: 00:49:51, 30-01-2008 » |
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Hurrah! I'm very happy. When you make the names plural like that, they suddenly do seem much more inviteable round to dinner.
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« Reply #3824 on: 00:53:01, 30-01-2008 » |
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66000 views, this thread.
Blimey.
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