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I find the German transliteration "Medtner" to be faaaar more aesthetically pleasing to the English "Metner".
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« Reply #46 on: 22:19:38, 13-08-2007 » |
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I've been blowing hot and cold over the last few days over whether to write Hanover or Hannover in my Brahms writings (I use Cologne rather than Köln). At the moment I'm back with Hanover - whadda ye all reckon?
increpation: I've never once seen 'Metner' - where have you seen that?
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« Reply #47 on: 22:36:56, 13-08-2007 » |
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I've been blowing hot and cold over the last few days over whether to write Hanover or Hannover in my Brahms writings (I use Cologne rather than Köln). Tough call, but my gut reaction is: go for Hanover. That said, I'm still a bit uncomfortable with Marseille, which seems to be increasingly prevalent in English (whereas, of course, 'Marseilles' used to be English for 'Marseille'  ). Basle or Basel? We had this one a while back! |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #48 on: 22:45:35, 13-08-2007 » |
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« Reply #49 on: 22:46:07, 13-08-2007 » |
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When I was at school it was pronounced Baal, now folks say Basil The rats... |
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« Reply #50 on: 22:47:15, 13-08-2007 » |
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Opens eyes groggily. The Stadtbibliothek here in Köln have a very rigorous transliteration system. Has? Slumps to floor feeling weak again. |
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« Reply #51 on: 22:47:28, 13-08-2007 » |
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« Reply #52 on: 22:48:02, 13-08-2007 » |
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PS. Tommo, I invite you to reconsider your objection. Ah, thank you. Invitation accepted. I'll give up on this pedantry thing. By teh way, has anyone seen Bryn? Tommo |
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« Reply #53 on: 22:49:32, 13-08-2007 » |
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When I was at school it was pronounced Baal, now folks say Basil  Um, am I on the right thread? |
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« Reply #54 on: 22:56:57, 13-08-2007 » |
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I would go for Hanover for the royal house, Hannover for the city. My gut reaction is mostly not to bother with special English forms that aren't for me different enough from the native one for there to be a point keeping them - but it depends to whom I am talking and in which language I am trying to do it. For me Marseille, Basel, Den Haag (but not 's-Gravenhage which even for me would count as a tad pretentious), Hannover, Nürnberg, Zürich rather than Zurich, Düsseldorf rather than Dusseldorf, Köln because I live here; but Florence, Munich, Geneva, Rome, Venice, Warsaw, Cairo... and any of those could change either way depending on circumstances. And Barcelona rather than [BV]arrthelona. So for me it all depends. Which I suppose means I've gone off-topic. Humble apologies. George, I think I must have inadvertently fallen in behind Ian's previously plural BL. Herd mentality. Inexcusable, I know. |
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« Reply #55 on: 23:01:37, 13-08-2007 » |
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With a library, I suppose it depends how you think of it - as a physical object, or as a group of people who run it.
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« Reply #56 on: 23:04:40, 13-08-2007 » |
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so for composers we go with the spelling that would get the most hits in a forum thread title search..............  |
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« Reply #57 on: 23:08:26, 13-08-2007 » |
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A library. A herd of stamping librarians.
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« Reply #58 on: 23:14:33, 13-08-2007 » |
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I've always been a bit of a dangerous rebel, Martle. Not for me the bowing to hidebound rules and the stifling chains of conventionality. That's why I became a civil servant. I agree, John, if that helps. Sounds good to me.  |
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« Reply #59 on: 23:15:39, 13-08-2007 » |
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A library. A herd of stamping librarians.
Neither sentence of this post is complete, George. Do keep up. Earlier on George had a sentence without an object, now he's over-compensating by not having a verb. And the type of rebellion described is of a thoroughly middle-class variety!  Rather akin to Rik Mayall saying 'We've been up all night! That's pretty anarchic, don't you think?' |
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