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« Reply #60 on: 23:19:42, 13-08-2007 »

Careful, Ian. Starting a sentence with "And" might may be controversial.
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« Reply #61 on: 23:20:44, 13-08-2007 »

Careful, Ian. Starting a sentence with "And" might may be controversial.
Better start it with '&' instead.
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« Reply #62 on: 23:27:52, 13-08-2007 »

A library. A herd of stamping librarians.

Neither sentence of this post is complete, George. Do keep up.  Cheesy

martle, should you have said 'that' post?
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« Reply #63 on: 23:40:14, 13-08-2007 »


I agree, John, if that helps. Sounds good to me. Smiley

Thanks George. That's you and I agreed on the spelling of Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov, Prokofiev and Shostakovich.

After all that I haven't got the heart to change old Grew's title message.... but I probably will when the thread fizzles out Cheesy
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« Reply #64 on: 00:38:41, 14-08-2007 »

John, have you considered compiling a COMPREHENSIVE dictionary of composer names, along with all their variants?

I've been blowing hot and cold over the last few days over whether to write Hanover or Hannover in my Brahms writings (I use Cologne rather than Köln). At the moment I'm back with Hanover - whadda ye all reckon?

increpation: I've never once seen 'Metner' - where have you seen that?

From a Jstor letter in the Musical times.  It is brief, so I will quote it here (a search for "metner" should bring it up;)):

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Sir - Why should the Russian composer's name be presented to English people in the German guise of ' Medtner '?  No Englishman can pronounce ' dt,' and there is no letter corresponding to ' d ' in the Russian form of the name.  Tchaikovsky's name is less often presented to us through a German medium than it used to be :  may we not hope for a similar reform in the case of Metner ? - Yours, &c.,
E. G. P. Wyate

Oh, I'm getting all nostalgic for the time when people use to do the whole " :  " colon thing.  Sends shivers down my spine it does!

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« Reply #65 on: 01:50:56, 14-08-2007 »

Just before tonight's Prom, the announcer said that the overture starts with a horn call at the beginning. Well, it wouldn't start with it at the end, or end with it at the start, would it?

I forget which programming language it was in, but there was a construct that insisted that the program begin with a [begin] module, which then had to be delimited by a command:
[end begin]

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John, have you considered compiling a COMPREHENSIVE dictionary of composer names, along with all their variants?

What about a comprehensive dictionary with hypertext links to automate the search ?
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« Reply #66 on: 10:26:11, 14-08-2007 »

And Barcelona rather than [BV]arrthelona.


The locals would probably prefer you didn't lithp anyway, that being a Castilian thing, and not Catalan at all.
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« Reply #67 on: 10:42:56, 14-08-2007 »

Oops, yes, quite right. I also note that betacism is not universal among Catalan dialects.

Oh well, I don't say Hamboich in Hamburg either...  Wink
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« Reply #68 on: 10:43:52, 14-08-2007 »

What really bugs me is people who go to "Ibitha". It's NOT "Ibitha" it's Ibiza!

There is no word in the English language where z is pronounced th. If you're English call it Ibiza and stop being so bloody pretentious Angry


I will allow you Ibitha if, and only if, you say that the capital of France is Paree. Find me an Englishman who says that!  Tongue


Sorry, thought I was in the "rant" room for a minute Wink

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« Reply #69 on: 10:54:56, 14-08-2007 »

And where will you all put the stress in 'Newcastle'?
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« Reply #70 on: 10:55:17, 14-08-2007 »

And Barcelona rather than [BV]arrthelona.


The locals would probably prefer you didn't lithp anyway, that being a Castilian thing, and not Catalan at all.
... although since Barcelona is the city's Castilian name it would seem reasonable to pronounce it in accordance with Ollie's ingenious notation. And I say that as one to whom the [th] comes very unnaturally, since my Spanish is mostly Mexican in origin.
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« Reply #71 on: 11:01:30, 14-08-2007 »

And where will you all put the stress in 'Newcastle'?

'NOOcastle', though 'tOOn' is also aceptable.

(Disclaimer: I am not a Geordie by birth.)

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« Reply #72 on: 11:14:35, 14-08-2007 »

And Barcelona rather than [BV]arrthelona.


The locals would probably prefer you didn't lithp anyway, that being a Castilian thing, and not Catalan at all.
... although since Barcelona is the city's Castilian name it would seem reasonable to pronounce it in accordance with Ollie's ingenious notation. And I say that as one to whom the [th] comes very unnaturally, since my Spanish is mostly Mexican in origin.

So far as I'm aware the name is spelt the same in both Catalan and Castilian (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona, gives different IPA, but no alternative spellings).
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« Reply #73 on: 11:16:03, 14-08-2007 »

I use Cologne rather than Köln
Any particular one?

Best,

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« Reply #74 on: 11:17:59, 14-08-2007 »

And where will you all put the stress in 'Newcastle'?

Agree with IRF. Short "a" too.
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