Baziron
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One musical phobia I always had as a youth was hearing Bach (really!). It always made me feel as though someone was relentlessly hitting me on the head with a teaspoon. BUT... My phobia has now been completely cured by the following (give it a try!)... PLAY THISBaz
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« Reply #1 on: 22:56:48, 01-09-2007 » |
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Very good, Baz. It has inspired me to put this disc on: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//CHAN9339.htm
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« Reply #2 on: 00:05:05, 02-09-2007 » |
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It's interesting how many of the general public have a phobia where classical music is concerned. Playing it over loud speakers has been successful in stopping teenagers congregating outside shops, tramps sleeping in multi-storey car parks and people lingering in pubs at closing time.
For many people, it's not just that they consider classical music to be dull, incomprehensible or uncool, they find it decidedly disturbing to listen to.
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« Reply #3 on: 00:53:47, 02-09-2007 » |
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Playing it over loud speakers has been successful in stopping teenagers congregating outside shops, tramps sleeping in multi-storey car parks and people lingering in pubs at closing time. Which in the long term will only serve to form associations in people's minds between classical music and "authority". Why couldn't they have used, I don't know, The Bachelors or something?
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« Reply #4 on: 01:01:41, 02-09-2007 » |
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It's interesting how many of the general public have a phobia where classical music is concerned. Playing it over loud speakers has been successful in stopping teenagers congregating outside shops, tramps sleeping in multi-storey car parks and people lingering in pubs at closing time. And it's strange how often it's Beethoven's Ninth that's been put to that purpose. I've always found it quite upsetting, actually: especially the instance you mention, when (IIRC) a Birmingham multi-storey car park started blasting out Beethoven at night to disturb the homeless people who were trying to sleep there. 'All men should be brothers' indeed! ... Of course, Beethoven's Ninth has a curious history of being put to purposes quite at odds with its ostensible message, its use by Anthony Burgess (in A Clockwork Orange) to satirise the idea that 'culture' makes us good being another example.
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« Reply #5 on: 01:33:11, 02-09-2007 » |
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For many people, it's not just that they consider classical music to be dull, incomprehensible or uncool, they find it decidedly disturbing to listen to.
Rather worrying, IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: 01:39:56, 02-09-2007 » |
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One musical phobia I always had as a youth was hearing Bach (really!). It always made me feel as though someone was relentlessly hitting me on the head with a teaspoon. BUT... My phobia has now been completely cured by the following (give it a try!)... PLAY THISBaz Actually; that reminds me of a childhood (and adolescent, indeed) thing I had with Bach; that I found his harmonic progressions to be immensely unsatisfying, to the point of being unpleasant; what I now regard as being entirely reasonable and beautiful, I used to think of as being something entirely and, indeed, profoundly unsatisfying. (This is maybe, in retrospect, what happens if one is spoiled on perfect cadences as a child).
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« Reply #7 on: 10:03:31, 02-09-2007 » |
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Playing it over loud speakers has been successful in stopping teenagers congregating outside shops, tramps sleeping in multi-storey car parks and people lingering in pubs at closing time. Which in the long term will only serve to form associations in people's minds between classical music and "authority". That's a very good point. It seems to me this is exactly what's going on with its use in such situations - a statement of ' we own this place, and you don't belong here[/i]'. I find it slightly disturbing from a social angle as well as a musical one. My personal phobia is Prokofiev's Classical Symphony. I really do not like to listen to it, and just the prospect of doing so, or worse still playing it, gets me worked up. Rimsky-Korsakov has the same effect to a lesser degree.
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« Reply #8 on: 16:04:57, 02-09-2007 » |
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I have to agree with you about that one, Owain - however my reason for loathing Prokofiev 1 is because I have heard it so many times (always by accident). Prokofiev's own piano transcription of the Gavotte oddly doesn't have the same effect! Can't agree about Rimsky though!
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« Reply #9 on: 16:12:26, 02-09-2007 » |
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I`m not sure if this counts as a phobia or an immensely strong dislike, but the Coffee Cantata drives me to distraction, I really can`t abide it. For me it has all the charm of fingernails being scraped down a blackboard. Shudder.
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« Reply #10 on: 18:34:29, 02-09-2007 » |
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I recommend the Samaroo family playing both Bach's double violin concerto and Prokofiev's classical symphony.
On steel pans.
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« Reply #11 on: 18:58:18, 02-09-2007 » |
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I recommend the Samaroo family playing both Bach's double violin concerto and Prokofiev's classical symphony.
On steel pans.
Ye gods! You`ve got a really sadistic streak, y`know?
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« Reply #12 on: 22:19:49, 02-09-2007 » |
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Bruckner. On the rare occasions when I cannot avoid his music (it's in the same programme as something I wanted to hear, someone I need to hear is performing, someone I dare not offend has invited me etc) I sit and think... "when I am dying, and there's some book I haven't finished reading, or something I wanted to do and didn't, I will remember that I instead wasted two hours on this droning, repetitious, poorly-orchestrated dirge". It is truly a phobia - I fear being asked to listen to his music. I have listened to all his symphonies and cannot find anything to like in them whatsoever. Although the "Te Deum" is definitely the low-point.
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« Reply #13 on: 22:34:34, 02-09-2007 » |
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When I was about 13 I had an LP called "Baroque Festival" or some such thing, which was one of my favourite records except for the fact that I couldn't for many years listen to its second track (it was the Canzon VIII from Giovanni Gabrieli's 1615 Sonate e canzoni collection, recorded by the Schola Cantorum Basiliensis in the late 1950s, rather slower than this music is generally performed nowadays). Not because I didn't "like" it in the sense that Reiner doesn't like Bruckner: it was a real inexplicable phobia - if by chance I let the first few notes sound I had to rush to the record player and move the stylus on to the next track. There were other pieces I used in my tender years to feel like that about, but that's the only one that's stuck in my mind. I still find it very disquieting. (At the same time I do like it.)
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« Reply #14 on: 00:46:00, 03-09-2007 » |
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I recommend the Samaroo family playing both Bach's double violin concerto and Prokofiev's classical symphony.
On steel pans.
Ye gods! You`ve got a really sadistic streak, y`know? Well I'm tempted!
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