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Author Topic: EMBARRASSING, CRINGE-WORTHY ADMISSIONS OF IGNORANCE  (Read 4149 times)
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« Reply #150 on: 13:36:07, 15-09-2007 »

I have not one tiniest shred of musical ability anywhere in my body, though I would gladly sell my soul for it  Sad

I reached this depressing conclusion as a student, when I thought I should learn to play the guitar. After weeks of trying unsuccessfully to tune it (I am not exaggerating), I realised there was some crucial musical connection missing in my brain. I had no idea what note a plucked string was sounding, nor how close or far it was from its intended note. A tuning fork didn't help. It goes "ting", the guitar goes "ping" -- totally different sounds! How can I tell if they are playing the same note when they don't even make the same sound?  Huh

No musical ability. At all. Not a sausage. It's so depressing  Sad

I am so envious of the rest of you.



If ever the spark rekindles, take heart IRF. My former partner was the same, but I managed to teach her how to identify the difference between the note sounding and the note she was aiming for. A large rubber mallet helps, as do jump leads.
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« Reply #151 on: 14:39:09, 15-09-2007 »

Most cars seem to have a thick little book hiding in the so-called glove compartment which you look at when all else fails (and not one moment before), and when you have that flat tyre on the motorway, and it's raining heavily, which it of course is, all else has failed and if you don't work out how to change it you will die of starvation or pneumonia, whichever comes first, because the chances of someone stopping to help you are zero.
In this situation, I put on Pettersson's Sixth Symphony and hold my head between my hands until the battery runs out.
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« Reply #152 on: 21:04:13, 15-09-2007 »

It goes "ting", the guitar goes "ping"

...IRF, forgive the question but did you after striking the tuning fork then hold the handle end against your guitar (or some other resonant object)? I only ask because the noise a tuning fork makes that you tune doesn't really go ping...

Maybe it's a bit late by now though?  Undecided

Octaves: there's a passage in the Berg violin concerto which does much the same thing but (almost entirely) in major 7ths. Perhaps another nasty joke.
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« Reply #153 on: 22:23:52, 15-09-2007 »

I have to confess (well, I suppose that I don't really have to, but I will anyway) that I just don't know why it is that when one talks to some people about the C# minor quartet, they start by asking you who the composer is.

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« Reply #154 on: 22:33:24, 15-09-2007 »

I have to confess (well, I suppose that I don't really have to, but I will anyway) that I just don't know why it is that when one talks to some people about the C# minor quartet, they start by asking you who the composer is.

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Alistair

Ehem.  That violates any number of the rules of this thread. 
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« Reply #155 on: 22:38:41, 15-09-2007 »

I don't know when my rehearsal tomorrow morning in Leverkusen is. We talked about it all damn day and I've simply forgotten. And it's an 11 am concert so my waking-up time is intimately connected with the rehearsal time. And it's past the time I can reasonably call my colleagues (it's now 20 to midnight here.)

How embarrassing.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #156 on: 22:48:11, 15-09-2007 »

I have to confess (well, I suppose that I don't really have to, but I will anyway) that I just don't know why it is that when one talks to some people about the C# minor quartet, they start by asking you who the composer is.

Well it could be Beethoven's, Pfitzner's, von Reznicek's, Draeseke's, or many others, so that's a rather reasonable question.

Have you been to the wikipedia page on C# minor today? I have.  Delightful.

On a more ignorance-tinged note: I didn't know to which quartet you referred.

Hmm.  Not enough if you ask me.

HOw about: I'm never quite fully sure what a dominant seventh chord actually is.  Having just looked it up, just now, I know again, but it might slip away again at any moment... .
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« Reply #157 on: 22:55:02, 15-09-2007 »

I have to confess (well, I suppose that I don't really have to, but I will anyway) that I just don't know why it is that when one talks to some people about the C# minor quartet, they start by asking you who the composer is.

Best,

Alistair

Ehem.  That violates any number of the rules of this thread. 
I don't doubt it; I've never been that good at adhering to roolz...

Best,

Alistair
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« Reply #158 on: 22:58:49, 15-09-2007 »

Have you been to the wikipedia page on C# minor today? I have.  Delightful.
Wot's wikipedia?...

On a more ignorance-tinged note: I didn't know to which quartet you referred.
So why did you mention Beethoven first in your list of perpetrators?

HOw about: I'm never quite fully sure what a dominant seventh chord actually is.
Isn't there some reference to it in an old ditty about seven dominatrices going to St. Ives? - or am I imagining it?...

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Alistair
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« Reply #159 on: 23:03:10, 15-09-2007 »

On a more ignorance-tinged note: I didn't know to which quartet you referred.
So why did you mention Beethoven first in your list of perpetrators?
Wikipedia.

Thanks wikipedia!  (Thikipedia)
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« Reply #160 on: 23:15:19, 15-09-2007 »

On a more ignorance-tinged note: I didn't know to which quartet you referred.
So why did you mention Beethoven first in your list of perpetrators?
Wikipedia.

Thanks wikipedia!  (Thikipedia)
Wikid answer, that!...

Best,

Alistair
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« Reply #161 on: 00:08:55, 16-09-2007 »

I confuse the last movements of the Mendelssohn and Tchaikovsky violin concertos, and I get the last movements of the Bruch and Brahms violin concertos mixed up.

I'll just put a paper bag over my head.
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« Reply #162 on: 00:31:15, 16-09-2007 »

never quite fully sure what a dominant seventh chord actually is.
What foxes me is all those "sixths", Neapolitan and so forth. I'd be hopeless at teaching harmony. Or writing it, for that matter.

"He who touches pitch is defiled from it." (Ecclesiastes 13:1)
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« Reply #163 on: 00:59:54, 16-09-2007 »

never quite fully sure what a dominant seventh chord actually is.
What foxes me is all those "sixths", Neapolitan and so forth. I'd be hopeless at teaching harmony.

I've had to give the Augmented 6ths lecture something like 86 times (it feels that way, anyhow), so I'd be happy to give you a private tutorial.

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« Reply #164 on: 01:12:09, 16-09-2007 »

never quite fully sure what a dominant seventh chord actually is.
What foxes me is all those "sixths", Neapolitan and so forth. I'd be hopeless at teaching harmony.

I've had to give the Augmented 6ths lecture something like 86 times (it feels that way, anyhow), so I'd be happy to give you a private tutorial.

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German - like dominant seventh
Italian - like dominant seventh without the fifth
French - pair of major thirds with a whole tone between them
Neapolitan sixth - simply a major sixth with, for its lowest pitch, the third degree of the scale beginning on the flattened supertonic.
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