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« Reply #165 on: 01:45:29, 16-09-2007 » |
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One time I was trying to kiss a girl and I somehow ended up blowing my nose on her. Our acquaintance was short-lived.
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Chafing Dish
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« Reply #166 on: 04:35:25, 16-09-2007 » |
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German - like dominant seventh
Italian - like dominant seventh without the fifth
French - pair of major thirds with a whole tone between them
Neapolitan sixth - simply a major sixth with, for its lowest pitch, the third degree of the scale beginning on the flattened supertonic.
GrrSee Rule#2, Member Pace. Besides, your Neapolitan explanation, while accurate, raises more questions than it answers! |
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #167 on: 05:19:06, 16-09-2007 » |
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German - like dominant seventh
Italian - like dominant seventh without the fifth
French - pair of major thirds with a whole tone between them
Neapolitan sixth - simply a major sixth with, for its lowest pitch, the third degree of the scale beginning on the flattened supertonic.
GrrSee Rule#2, Member Pace. Besides, your Neapolitan explanation, while accurate, raises more questions than it answers!
(It's also a crap explanation of augmented 6ths, as it focuses on intervallic relationships rather than a) voice leading and b) chord function -- the pivotal issues are the crucial VL tendencies of each of the scale degrees (most importantly, #4-5 and b6-5, moving in contrary motion) and the built-in harmonic motion towards the dominant. It's tonal harmony -- it's all about function; intervals (at least as abstract objects) are irrelevant.) |
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« Reply #169 on: 07:04:23, 16-09-2007 » |
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indeed we almost wonder if Member Pace might there have been focussing on the last part of Rule 2's subclause  I see you're up early for Sunday church services, Ollie. You can ask forgiveness for your spelling of 'focusing.' I'm sure I've just broken some rule or other. I should go to bed. |
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« Reply #170 on: 07:29:35, 16-09-2007 » |
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indeed we almost wonder if Member Pace might there have been focussing on the last part of Rule 2's subclause I see you're up early for Sunday church services, Ollie. You can ask forgiveness for your spelling of 'focusing.' I'm sure I've just broken some rule or other. I should go to bed. If you'd been paying attention you'd know that I'm up early to go to Leverkusen... I'm OK with my spelling of focussing for the time being. You might enjoy this.  |
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #171 on: 07:42:29, 16-09-2007 » |
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If you'd been paying attention you'd know that I'm up early to go to Leverkusen...
Ah, but _I_ know where the rehearsal is. (I don't, really, but ... I was paying attention. (But ... I cringe-worthy-ing-ly admit that the only thing I know about Leverkusen is that my least favorite American soccer player played there for a few years.)) |
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #172 on: 10:51:35, 16-09-2007 » |
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German - like dominant seventh
Italian - like dominant seventh without the fifth
French - pair of major thirds with a whole tone between them
Neapolitan sixth - simply a major sixth with, for its lowest pitch, the third degree of the scale beginning on the flattened supertonic.
GrrSee Rule#2, Member Pace. Besides, your Neapolitan explanation, while accurate, raises more questions than it answers!
(It's also a crap explanation of augmented 6ths, as it focuses on intervallic relationships rather than a) voice leading and b) chord function -- the pivotal issues are the crucial VL tendencies of each of the scale degrees (most importantly, #4-5 and b6-5, moving in contrary motion) and the built-in harmonic motion towards the dominant. It's tonal harmony -- it's all about function; intervals (at least as abstract objects) are irrelevant.) Of course it doesn't explain the harmonic function of these various types of augmented sixths, it's just a shorthand way of remembering which is which. |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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richard barrett
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« Reply #173 on: 11:17:16, 16-09-2007 » |
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If the purpose of any of the foregoing comments was even incidentally to put me out of my misery regarding my confusion as to which sixth is which, may I just say that all have failed. Congratulations!
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« Reply #174 on: 11:27:29, 16-09-2007 » |
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If the purpose of any of the foregoing comments was even incidentally to put me out of my misery regarding my confusion as to which sixth is which, may I just say that all have failed. Congratulations!
The Wiki page is not bad - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chord |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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Chafing Dish
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« Reply #176 on: 12:43:55, 16-09-2007 » |
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If the purpose of any of the foregoing comments was even incidentally to put me out of my misery regarding my confusion as to which sixth is which, may I just say that all have failed. Congratulations!
The Wiki page is not bad - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chordSee Rule#2, Members Pace and Garnett. Et tu, George?! |
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #177 on: 12:46:00, 16-09-2007 » |
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If the purpose of any of the foregoing comments was even incidentally to put me out of my misery regarding my confusion as to which sixth is which, may I just say that all have failed. Congratulations!
The Wiki page is not bad - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chordSee Rule#2, Members Pace and Garnett. Et tu, George?! Sorry! Hence a new thread - this is a subject which has some interest, n'est ce pas? |
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« Reply #178 on: 13:32:24, 16-09-2007 » |
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Thanks George. I was beginning to wonder whether my lack of musical education was finally about to reveal itself as a major disadvantage.  |
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« Reply #179 on: 13:42:52, 16-09-2007 » |
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You can ask forgiveness for your spelling of 'focusing.'
See the pedantry thread where the two alternatives [NB] were discussed at some length... |
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