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Author Topic: EMBARRASSING, CRINGE-WORTHY ADMISSIONS OF IGNORANCE  (Read 4149 times)
Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #60 on: 18:08:59, 13-09-2007 »

Distressingly often nowadays I wake up and literally don't know where I am until I open my eyes. Should I be worried?

No, but if opening your eyes still doesn't help, maybe that's the time to worry?

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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
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« Reply #61 on: 18:38:18, 13-09-2007 »

I don't know the way to San José.  Embarrassed

Also, until quite recently I thought the Edinburgh Fringe was a haircut (possibly in the shape of a sporran?).

I can never remember offhand whether Iraq is east or west of Iran. I always have to consult a map.

CD, it could be worse. I heard an apparently true story of a sub-editor who asked: 'Iran or Iraq: what's our house style on that one?'

Quite possible - I've been near similar situations re Slovenia/Slovakia...
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« Reply #62 on: 18:45:22, 13-09-2007 »

I can't STAND jazz.

Neither can I, Ruth, and I'm not even faintly embarrassed by the fact. Nor am I embarrassed by the fact that I've never finished a Harry Potter book. I am, however, slightly embarrassed to admit that I don't like Jane Austen, and I've never finished any of her books either.

I've never been sure what "pragmatic" means.

I think "Bluetooth" is a kind of whale, or possibly shark, or possibly a Scandinavian king called Erik.
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« Reply #63 on: 19:03:15, 13-09-2007 »

CD, it could be worse. I heard an apparently true story of a sub-editor who asked: 'Iran or Iraq: what's our house style on that one?'
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« Reply #64 on: 19:03:46, 13-09-2007 »

I have never been able to get on with Jane Austen, I find her intensely irritating. Then again, I`m not embarrassed or even cringing about it, so I suppose it doesn`t count. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #65 on: 19:39:14, 13-09-2007 »

I too have never heard Fidelio or read any of the Harry Potter books (I'm not sure why these two go hand in hand).

Something to do with not liking an owl playing a central role in the narrative?

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« Reply #66 on: 19:40:03, 13-09-2007 »

Chouette, George !  Cheesy

Suppose that rules out Till Eulenspiegel as well.
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« Reply #67 on: 19:44:33, 13-09-2007 »

I too have never heard Fidelio or read any of the Harry Potter books (I'm not sure why these two go hand in hand).

Something to do with not liking an owl playing a central role in the narrative?
I wouldn't know, not even knowing more than the barest outlines of the plot of either of the cultural phenomena in question.

But I like Till Eulenspiegel.
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« Reply #68 on: 19:51:50, 13-09-2007 »

Re Jane Austen - i can relate to that Morticia
Trying to read it for school project many moons ago tried to get past page one but in the end threw it across the room in a rage- no doubt great literature but not for me....
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« Reply #69 on: 20:08:17, 13-09-2007 »

I have never read anything by:
Jane Austen
Joseph Conrad
F Scott Fitzgerald
Graham Greene
Herman Melville
Thomas Pynchon
(and countless thousands of others of course)
I've never read Moby Dick, nor anything of Tolstoy, nor of Stendahl. Of your list, I would recommend Pynchon in particular, and it would be very interesting to know what you'd make (politically) of Conrad's The Secret Agent, Under Western Eyes, or for that matter Heart of Darkness (the plot of which I'm sure you know if you've seen Apocalypse Now). Wouldn't worry too much about the others.

There are loads of Shakespeare plays I don't know - Timon of Athens, just about any of the history plays, and countless others. I don't ever recall hearing Haydn's The Seasons, and the list of notorious Handel works I don't know is as long as your arm. Never read George Eliot Middlemarch, or Daniel Deronda, or anything else other than The Mill on the Floss or Silas Marner. Then it gets more embarrassing -never read all of Ulysses or Finnegans Wake (have read Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist and dipped into the others, but not made it through them in full). Know very little of Hindemith (what I do know hasn't exactly encouraged me to listen further), nor ever recall fully hearing Respighi The Pines of Rome or Fountains of Rome. And have a massive blindspot for the majority of music from the Renaissance (all their particular variety of counterpoint suggests to me a gold star in class rather than anything worth listening to).

And would find it very difficult to place most South American countries on the map other than Brazil, Chile and Argentina. Where exactly is Venezuela again?

Also never read a word of Harry Potter, nor ever watched Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives, The Sopranos or Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Nor Titanic. But that latter list doesn't bother me so much....
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« Reply #70 on: 20:13:03, 13-09-2007 »

I can't get jazz at all I'm afraid. I try from time to time but so far no luck. Except with a few people but they then provoke a nose-turning-up reaction from REAL jazzers if I mention them so I've stopped mentioning them.
Oh, you have to mention them now, Ollie. Are we right in thinking you are a closet Jacques Loussier fan, for example? Smiley

Oh, recalling other ignorance - I've never read in full The Divine Comedy, nor The Decameron, nor Don Quixote, nor Paradise Lost. Let alone Orlando Furioso. Not even Beowulf, either.
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« Reply #71 on: 20:20:07, 13-09-2007 »

Ref!  Flagrant Rule #1 breach!  Cheesy
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« Reply #72 on: 20:23:46, 13-09-2007 »

Pelléas et Mélisande
Debussy's, Sibelius's, Schönberg's, Fauré's or any combination of the four?...
I've heard the Schoenberg but not the others. (I didn't even know there was one by Fauré.) I said I hadn't heard all of Pictures at an Exhibition, not that I hadn't heard any of it...
No, Richard, I accept, understand and agree that, of course; my only reason for even referring to so many things for you to listen to is the knowledge that there has been such a vast quantity of arrangements of Pictures at an Exhibition and, if you've not heard some of some or all of these (or some or all parts thereof), may I humbly suggest that you might like to start with Elgar Howarth's arrangement for the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble?

(to everyone else here) - I didn't even know that Richard had never heard those works that he's mentioned here until he mentioned it here...
I don't think that really counts as embarrassing and cringeworthy ignorance, Mr Hinton. You'll have to do better than that.
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Oi! What's with this "Mr Hinton" stuff oliver sudden, Sir Richard?! I'm sure that I can't "do" either "better" or worse "than that" here and, if I may gently remind you, this thread and its concepts and motivations are, after all, someone else's and not mine.

Anyway (and I now address the membership as a whole), it would seem that my own most recent embarrassing and cringeworthy admission of ignorance is amply demonstrated by the fact that, as that master of multiple adjacencies of consonants Prof. Sir Richard Rodney Barrett so rightly observes, I have revealed myself as having been unable to "do better" than wot I did 'ere. It surely doesn't get a lot worse than that. Back to the sheer sanity of Pettersson's symphonic world (oops, sorry - wrong thread!)...

Best (and with duly abject apologies),

Alistair
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« Reply #73 on: 20:26:39, 13-09-2007 »

I always remove one sandwich from each picnic. Is there something I should know?
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« Reply #74 on: 20:27:47, 13-09-2007 »

Are we right in thinking you are a closet Jacques Loussier fan, for example? Smiley
If we really DID think so, which we suspect we didn't, then no we would most certainly NOT be.

And oddly enough if we did say we were then we wouldn't be either on grounds of having breached the closet. What a paradox.
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