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Author Topic: Christmas - love it or hate it?  (Read 2629 times)
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« Reply #60 on: 19:39:07, 19-11-2007 »

...although the Russian Orthodox Church has a rather low-key celebration for Christmas...  which it dates on Jan 7th.  

I seem to recall that Radio 3 used to broadcast a Russian Orthodox midnight service some years back.
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« Reply #61 on: 19:40:01, 19-11-2007 »

I'm very fond indeed of Thanksgiving in the States. In almost all respects, it is for Americans their equivalent of the GOOD things about Xmas, without the religious stuff and without the commercilism. Xmas of course exists there, but by no means is celebrated by all Americans. The season is referred to as the 'Holiday' season, for all the reasons already given. But Thanksgiving isn't specifically religious, and everyone, but everyone celebrates it, with family. Thanksgiving Day itself and the day before it are, I think the heaviest travel days of any in the US calendar. You want to fly from east to west coast on the following day? You can pick up a ticket fpr peanuts!

And the food! Not just turkey, but all the root vegetable dishes: butternut squash mashed in garlic and butter, sweet potatoes... cranberry sauce AND cranberry jelly. And of course, pecan pie!!

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« Reply #62 on: 19:40:21, 19-11-2007 »

If there are enough people, a goose is fab (and not just at Xmas  Wink)

Whereas if you're on your own, I find pheasant very good - much tastier than turkey.

Ron, I may well try that recipe for bread sauce this year!

Trouble with pheasant, you get a mouthful of shot and spend Christmas Day in Emergency Dental Clinic
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« Reply #63 on: 21:17:43, 19-11-2007 »

Bread sauce.

From Margaret Patten's Cookery Book:
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Oh, that always makes me so happy. The highlight of every Christmas morning for the last thirty years.


 
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« Reply #64 on: 21:23:20, 19-11-2007 »

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« Reply #65 on: 21:55:18, 19-11-2007 »

Martle, No! Don't even think of commenting on that.

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« Reply #66 on: 15:22:24, 20-11-2007 »

If there are enough people, a goose is fab (and not just at Xmas  Wink)

Whereas if you're on your own, I find pheasant very good - much tastier than turkey.

Ron, I may well try that recipe for bread sauce this year!

I am a vegetarian - we have lovely food, I've some really wonderful festive recipes.
But sometimes when we are cat-sitting we buy Pheasant cat-food. I kid you not, you can get Pheasant Cat Food at Waitrose in Holloway Road.
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« Reply #67 on: 15:24:08, 20-11-2007 »

If there are enough people, a goose is fab (and not just at Xmas  Wink)

Whereas if you're on your own, I find pheasant very good - much tastier than turkey.

Ron, I may well try that recipe for bread sauce this year!

Trouble with pheasant, you get a mouthful of shot and spend Christmas Day in Emergency Dental Clinic

you can get to an Emergency Dental clinic on Xmas Day?? Huh Or indeed AT ALL? Where do you live?
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« Reply #68 on: 15:31:59, 20-11-2007 »

If there are enough people, a goose is fab (and not just at Xmas  Wink)

Whereas if you're on your own, I find pheasant very good - much tastier than turkey.

Ron, I may well try that recipe for bread sauce this year!

I am a vegetarian - we have lovely food, I've some really wonderful festive recipes.
But sometimes when we are cat-sitting we buy Pheasant cat-food. I kid you not, you can get Pheasant Cat Food at Waitrose in Holloway Road.

Ye gods, operacat! I was in that very same emporium this morning. If only I`d known! I think I may not share this information with the moggies ... Grin
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« Reply #69 on: 21:04:34, 20-11-2007 »

Cats go completely crazy if they smell pheasant cooking - ours did, anyway.
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« Reply #70 on: 11:38:59, 21-11-2007 »

you can get Pheasant Cat Food at Waitrose in Holloway Road.

Ye gods, operacat! I was in that very same emporium this morning.
Oh you don't want to go there, Mort/opuss! At least two composers (shhhh) have been known to frequent that emporium, and I believe were once seen engaging one another in conversation in the bread aisle (shock horror!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked), even though one of them shares a name with the road and the other is better known for his socialist convictions ...
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« Reply #71 on: 11:52:01, 21-11-2007 »

the other is better known for his socialist convictions ...

Do they still convict folk for that down there? How bizarre!
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« Reply #72 on: 22:11:24, 21-11-2007 »

Had to fight back the tears as I read Baboushka to my class today. I'd forgotten what a sad story it is! It wasn't a sentimental text (thank goodness!) but I found it quite moving. [Makes mental note to always read the book to herself before reading it aloud...you'd think I'd have learned my lesson last year when a book about the body from the Schools Library Service had a farting bottom in it and I'd shown them the picture before I realised...] 

Are Russian children told that Baboushka has left them presents at Christmas?

When I lived in Sicily in Cefalů near a hill called La Rocca, I learned that the local children were told that their Christmas presents were left for them by an old woman who lived in La Rocca - rather a quaint local tale.
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« Reply #73 on: 22:27:34, 21-11-2007 »

I normally get the chance to celebrate the Russian Christmas as we have Russian/Uzbek friends (the people, incidentally, who introduced me to the culinary miracle that is Plov) who always invite us to share their Christmas celebration on 7 January - this normally involves superb food in serious quantity and watching satellite transmissions of Russian Christmas TV - which appears to consist entirely of high-camp lavish singing and dancing numbers performed by singers whose heavy make-up conceals what we are assured by the numerous expat Russians present is their vast age and generally addled condition.

Much more fun than turkey and the Queen ...

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« Reply #74 on: 22:40:46, 21-11-2007 »

Are Russian children told that Baboushka has left them presents at Christmas?

I can't claim chapter and verse on this one, not having any Russian children, but AFAIK Russian children have their toys left for them by a duo;  Ded' Moroz ("Gran'pa Frost"), and his mini-skirtted assistant Snegurochka ("Snow Maiden").  Although roughly corresponding to "Santa Claus", Ded' Moroz and his cute companion live at Veliky Ustiug, a village which does actually exist, and is located in the Vologda Region.  They fly through the sky by themselves, without needing any reindeer (although in the Vologda Region they'd certainly not be short of reindeer if they wanted any).

Ded' Moroz's exotic get-up - a long gown adorned with baubles and oddities - hints at his historic background... he's probably a shaman?  The northern shamen would come down out of the forests and into the towns at the year-end, to make a little pocket-money saying good-luck spells and incantations for the townsfolk.  This apparently happened not only in Russia, but in Sweden, Norway & Finland too.   Very probably they brought with them sacks of hand-carved toys which they'd made during the year, which were given to children... provided the parents coughed-up appropriately, of course...  so no change there, then  Wink

superb food in serious quantity and watching satellite transmissions of Russian Christmas TV - which appears to consist entirely of high-camp lavish singing and dancing numbers

I'm sure you're very polite to your hosts about the tv programs Wink  But I agree entirely, they really are woeful entertainment Wink  I generally try to contrive to be working over the holiday period somehow, as a way of avoiding them Smiley   
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