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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #2580 on: 04:35:12, 22-03-2008 »
Mr. Inquisitor's number 421 is taken from the Second Symphony of the tremendous Scryabine. It is in the key of C minor and dates from around 1901. The fashionable Mr. Griffiths is both interesting and absurd on this point (bird-song). He begins by quoting Messiaen: "I do not believe one can find in any human music, however inspired, melodies and rhythms which have the sovereign liberty of bird-song." Messiaen we are told "understood birds - being winged, aerial, and beautiful - as earthly harbingers of the angels."

So far so good and no doubt something similar could be said of Scryabine. But Mr. Griffiths spoils it all with this: "Réveil des oiseaux, the first of Messiaen's major bird-song pieces, is an extinction of creative personality as complete as its great contemporary 4' 33", and as incomplete." Talk about rolling on the floor!
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Baz
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« Reply #2581 on: 07:47:21, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Baz on 10:47:48, 21-03-2008

Puzzle 412

Puzzle 414


Some clues for 412 and 414...

While both have a distinctly "Classical" ambience, 412 was written exactly 200 years after the death of Mozart by a composer born in 1954, and 414 was composed 198 years earlier by a composer born in 1732.

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« Reply #2582 on: 08:38:53, 22-03-2008 »
424 is from near the end of the Jean Barraque piano sonata - it seems to be played a bit matter-of-factly, but I'll probably be told it's from the best performance . . .
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« Reply #2583 on: 09:09:52, 22-03-2008 »
Puzzle 412 - wild guess.  Szymanski - 60 Odd Pages
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #2584 on: 09:39:49, 22-03-2008 »
For 414 I'll try Haydn's opus 1 number 6.
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Baz
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« Reply #2585 on: 09:51:31, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Antheil the Termite Lover on 09:09:52, 22-03-2008
Puzzle 412 - wild guess.  Szymanski - 60 Odd Pages

Not correct unfortunately.
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Baz
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« Reply #2586 on: 09:52:33, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Tony Watson on 09:39:49, 22-03-2008
For 414 I'll try Haydn's opus 1 number 6.

Not correct I'm afraid (were the Op. 1 4tets as late as 1793?).
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Il Grande Inquisitor
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« Reply #2587 on: 10:02:19, 22-03-2008 »
414 - Haydn's String Quartet in C major, op.74 no.1
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« Reply #2588 on: 10:02:45, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Sydney Grew on 04:35:12, 22-03-2008
Mr. Inquisitor's number 421 is taken from the Second Symphony of the tremendous Scryabine.

Is absolutely correct, Mr Grew!
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Baz
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« Reply #2589 on: 10:04:23, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Il Grande Inquisitor on 10:02:19, 22-03-2008
414 - Haydn's String Quartet in C major, op.74 no.1

Correct Mr Inquisitor - a snatch from near the opening of the Finale.
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« Reply #2590 on: 10:08:41, 22-03-2008 »
Hurrah!

Quote from: Baz on 07:47:21, 22-03-2008
412 was written exactly 200 years after the death of Mozart by a composer born in 1954

So is it a piece composed/arranged for the 200th anniversary?

Judith Weir's Scipio's Dream is based on Mozart's Il sogno di Scipione and was composed in 1991, so that will be my guess...
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Baz
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« Reply #2591 on: 10:13:36, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Il Grande Inquisitor on 10:08:41, 22-03-2008
Hurrah!

Quote from: Baz on 07:47:21, 22-03-2008
412 was written exactly 200 years after the death of Mozart by a composer born in 1954

So is it a piece composed/arranged for the 200th anniversary?

Judith Weir's Scipio's Dream is based on Mozart's Il sogno di Scipione and was composed in 1991, so that will be my guess...

Although your identification is (sadly) incorrect, you have with characteristic perception and intelligence commented entirely correctly upon the piece's intrinsic type of content, and entirely correctly upon its purpose.
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« Reply #2592 on: 10:24:19, 22-03-2008 »
So, we are 'on the right track', so to speak.

How about Carson Kievman's Symphony No.2 for No.412? It was commissioned by the Florida Philharmonic Orchestra to observe the 200th Anniversary of the death of Mozart (and has been recorded as well!)
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Baz
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« Reply #2593 on: 10:49:09, 22-03-2008 »
Quote from: Il Grande Inquisitor on 10:24:19, 22-03-2008
So, we are 'on the right track', so to speak.

How about Carson Kievman's Symphony No.2 for No.412? It was commissioned by the Florida Philharmonic Orchestra to observe the 200th Anniversary of the death of Mozart (and has been recorded as well!)

This is still incorrect I'm afraid.

You were on the 'right track', but as with all rail systems here it would be much safer to stick firmly to home!

I was going to give Robin Holloway's brief description of his music as a clue, but when I googled it it led straight to the composer's page as given by his publisher - and I think that is too easy for anyone (especially you Mr Inquisitor!).
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Baz
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« Reply #2594 on: 11:01:52, 22-03-2008 »
...But I will say this as a further clue to the identity of the composer of 412...

His name accurately describes the historic affluence enjoyed by English traders of animal by-products, especially in the textile industries.
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