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The new cathedral is probably the only post-war city-centre building that the city residents still approve of. There are plans to wipe away all the other 1950-60s concrete carbunkles and desolate 'cobbled yards' and subways that no-one feels safe to enter, and there's still some neglected bomb holes next to car parks. If the planners had had brains they would have rebuilt Coventry as it WAS and it would now look like York does today  Shall I ask the mods if I can move all this to a 'Cathedral and Church thread'? then this thread can get back to the glorious Spring weather  |
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I think a Cathedral and Church thread would probably get a lot of interest.
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« Reply #17 on: 22:27:45, 27-03-2008 » |
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Rehearsal for the War Requiem in Coventry Cathedral.  Meredith Davies on the rostrum, talking to Britten. Peter Pears standing far right, and to left of him (our left, his right) you can just see Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau seated. |
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« Reply #18 on: 22:32:16, 27-03-2008 » |
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Hope this new thread finds favour with those who requested it. Seems like a good idea to me. More pics and comments are very welcome.
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« Reply #19 on: 22:33:43, 27-03-2008 » |
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Fantastic pic, Mary!
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« Reply #20 on: 22:42:23, 27-03-2008 » |
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There are four sorts of Anglican cathedrals in England and Wales:
Purpose built prior to 1800 (all the classics - Winchester is up with the best, martle. The outside is a bit undistinguished and the current bishop is an utter plonker.)
Purpose built post 1800 (Truro, which I have never visited, Coventry, Guildford, Liverpool at least)
Abbey adapted as cathdral (Among others: Oxford, Gloucester, Peterborough, Ripon, St Albans, Southwark, Brecon, which I have never seen.)
Parish churches adapted with varying degrees of success. Leicester is definitely ho-hum. But I was charmed by both St Woolos, Newport (cathedral of the diocese of Monmouth) and Blackburn when I saw them for the first time last year.
RC and Orthodox cathedrals are a different ballgame. Westminster Cathedral is awesome and far more atmospheric than St Pauls.
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Well, I can't help loving the magnificent Norman (and part Anglo-Saxon) Abbey in Romsey, the town where I spent the first 18 years of my life; and I sang in the choir there for a couple of years. (I was head chorister for one year.  )   |
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« Reply #22 on: 23:00:47, 27-03-2008 » |
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O martle, thank you so much. My partner's dear parents had a little service there to mark their golden wedding, followed by a reception in King John's Hall, IIRC.
In due course both their funerals took place there.
My partner wanted to present the Abbey with holy water bucket as a mark of thanks, but the one we bought in Portugal was not able to take an inscription.
Good Anglican that I am, I must point out that although Romsey was a monastic church (of nuns, not monks) it was never a catherdal.
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Good Anglican that I am, I must point out that although Romsey was a monastic church (of nuns, not monks) it was never a catherdal.
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« Reply #24 on: 23:04:09, 27-03-2008 » |
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Here's my snap of Blackburn Cathedral last year  NB - John OK, Romsey Abbey is a parish church. Westminster Abbey, however is a Royal Peculiar. |
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« Reply #25 on: 23:07:35, 27-03-2008 » |
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For those of you who don't know Romsey Abbey as well as martle and I, I would point out his interior photo is taken almost at floor level and makes the building look a far sight larger than it is. It is not dinky by any means.
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« Reply #26 on: 23:10:29, 27-03-2008 » |
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My partner's dear parents had a little service there to mark their golden wedding, followed by a reception in King John's Hall, IIRC.
Don, it's King John's House.  And my mother had her 80th birthday bash there too! A lovely little lodge where King John used to whore and drink after his hunting sessions in the New Forest. There's still some very unflattering graffiti there, portraying him, drawn by his mischievous fellow huntsmen. |
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« Reply #27 on: 23:24:21, 27-03-2008 » |
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I have found over the years that my enthusiasm for cathedrals has often met with a rather luke warm/suspicious response from people. They cannot seem to see that one can delight in the architecture and history of the building, without getting tied up in religion and the 'power' of the church. Same people also react the same to 'sacred' music, being unable hear it as music in its own right - a sound that can raise one to to extraordinary heights.
Oops, veering off topic here. I very much want to see Wells Cathedral. DB, you are quite right about Westminster. Awesome. But at at same time, it feels 'lived in', in a way that St Pauls does not..
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This is one of my favourite church pictures. I took it probably 20 years ago (I need to check the shooting date) and I've just discovered, thanks to Google, that it's St Mary's at Norney in Surrey - between Godalming and Farnham.  This is scanned in from a print I made btw not from the original negative. [cotitsalv] |
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« Reply #29 on: 01:26:48, 28-03-2008 » |
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Westminster Abbey, however is a Royal Peculiar.
'... and it's not the only one!', as my friend Malcolm Crowthers said when he was commissioned to take photographs of it! Thanks so much for your typology of Anglican cathedrals, Don. I never knew any of that. I shall try to remember them (I'm hopeless with architecture - it's the only art-form I can't seem to retain information about  ). |
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