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« Reply #225 on: 17:46:37, 04-06-2008 » |
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« Reply #226 on: 18:02:23, 04-06-2008 » |
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Ant, thanks for all this - your last few posts have made me want to get in the car and go out exploring these places, it's a part of the country I don't know at all.
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« Reply #227 on: 18:14:58, 04-06-2008 » |
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Ant, thanks for all this - your last few posts have made me want to get in the car and go out exploring these places, it's a part of the country I don't know at all.
richard, I have another two Welsh roods and lofts up me casssock - I am saving the best and oldest until last. As Gossamer Beynon would say. Marcher Country is not solely composed of sheep and bucolics with hayseeds in their hair. Not solely. Perhaps 80% !!
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« Reply #228 on: 19:15:02, 04-06-2008 » |
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Especially for richard, whilst I wait for dinner to cook. Another trip slighly northwards to the Brecon Beacons (do you remember SuperGrass, ('She's just a girl from the Brecon Beacons?') So, now we have St. Bilo at Llanfilo. Medieval structure, a successor to a Norman edifice, set in a sub-circular churchyard. St. Bilo was the daughter of Brychan, a local King. I don't know what she did to gain her Sainthood - just came with the job I expect. Anyway, a lovely, lovely, place. Exterior, Rood, Detail and the Crucifix on the Rood. Sorry pics a bit dark, note the Beacons sweeping away majestically in the background like a herd of lesbian marsupials as marblefluegel would say!
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« Reply #229 on: 01:23:15, 05-06-2008 » |
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Some of these are making me positively homesick!
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish.
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« Reply #230 on: 10:53:04, 05-06-2008 » |
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That's lovely, anty, I didn't know it at all.
From the look of it the rood, ie the figure of Christ on the cross with supporting figures of the beloved disciple and his mother *, are C19 or C20 replacements, but the loft looks the genuine stuff.
The curved roof is a barrel roof, which I know as the specialty of Devon and Cornwall (as in my photos of Blisland and Manaton.) Interesting to find it in another area.
Brychan is the supposed father of many of the Cornish and Welsh saints. According to a life of St Nectan surviving at Hartland Abbey, he was the father of 24 children. He is represented in a C15 stained glass window in St Neot's in Cornwall with his children in his lap.
* ie John and Mary, but John's gospel that provides the story of them at the foot of the cross, does not give their names. It is the scriptural basis of much devotion to Mary.
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« Reply #231 on: 14:57:06, 05-06-2008 » |
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Just to get back to the city for a moment, in the hope anty will produce more idyllic pastoral scenes in due course, here is the Most Holy Redeemer, Clerkenwell from 1892 by J D Sedding. By this time Victorian architects were getting bit bored with Gothic, and didn't necessarily agree with Pugin's potty theory that Gothic was the only Christian style. So Sedding built a repro of Santo Spirito Florence in what was then a seedy back street. The street, Exmouth Market is now a trendy paved street with eateries and wine bars a go-go.
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« Reply #232 on: 15:14:00, 05-06-2008 » |
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The curved roof is a barrel roof, which I know as the specialty of Devon and Cornwall (as in my photos of Blisland and Manaton.) Interesting to find it in another area.
My pictures of Partrishow weren't very clear but it too has a barrel roof. That Clerkenwell Church is great Don!! Believe it or not we have a J.D. Sedding Italianate in the middle of rural Herefordshire!! I'm at work now so will find a pic of it later.
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« Reply #233 on: 17:58:32, 05-06-2008 » |
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In rural Southwest Herefordshire in the tiny village of Hoarwithy there is a little piece of Italy set on a hill overlooking the Wye. It gave me quite a shock when I first came across it by chance as I had no idea it was there.
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« Reply #234 on: 18:21:55, 05-06-2008 » |
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Anty, just chiming in with another message of appreciation for this Welsh 'n' borders chuch tour! I'd no idea you were so, er, churchy, convent or not...
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« Reply #235 on: 18:35:48, 05-06-2008 » |
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Thanks Marty, I'm glad it's of interest to others. Wales and the Borders has a wealth of little gems, often hidden away and not documented (Hoarwithy is quite famous - Michael Winner filmed there! ) It's not so much a question of being 'churchy' really but an intense interest in history/architecture I think. I have always been happy exploring damp old churches, reading memorials and loitering in graveyards!! Which brings us neatly to the old Dylan Thomas Milk Wood quote about Bach in the graveyard which I promise I won't repeat again Oh well, due to public demand I will. First Voice: Organ Morgan goes to chapel to play the organ. He sees Bach lying on a tombstone. Organ Morgan: Johann Sebastian! Cherry Owen (drunkenly): Who? Organ Morgan: Johann Sebastian mighty Bach. Oh, Bach fach. Oh, you had to be there!
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« Reply #236 on: 10:55:05, 06-06-2008 » |
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I have seen Hoarwithy in my time. Collins Parish Church Guide says of it:
"Here the stones of Venice can be seen on the banks of the Wye... Marbles, lapis lazuli and gold mosaics."
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« Reply #237 on: 12:28:27, 06-06-2008 » |
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And here is a view inside of the former church of St Sergius and Bacchus in Istanbul, dating from c525, and built under the Emperor Justinian. Only ten minutes from the tourist centre of Istanbul and deserted apart from a children's playground next door. An old caretaker wandered up, unlocked it and allowed us in, after we had removed our shoes. In 1453, Constantinople was conquered by the Turks (aggressive, militaristic colonisers are not only European) and the church was turned into a mosque (hence the shoe removal). The lower left hand corner shows the (steep) stairs up to the (out of sight) pulpit, with the funny little curtained doorway at the foot of the stairs. Who were Sergius and Bacchus? This intriguing bit from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Sergius_and_BacchusErastai Sergius and Bacchus's close relationship has led some modern commenters to believe they were lovers. The most popular evidence for this view is that the oldest text of their martyrology, in the Greek language, describes them as "erastai", or lovers.[5] Yale historian John Boswell considers their relationship to be an example of an early Christian same-sex union, reflecting his contested view of tolerant early Christians attitudes toward homosexuality.[5] The artist Robert Lentz advocated this view,[6] portraying the men as a gay couple in his religious iconography painting. In his study on "The Origin of the Cult of SS. Sergius and Bacchus" David Woods classified some of Boswell's arguments as "superficial". Other historians and Byzantine analysts, along with the official stance of the Eastern Orthodox Church, argue that the ancient Eastern tradition of adelphopoiia, which was done to form a "brotherhood" in the name of God, and is traditionally associated with these two saints, had no sexual implications.
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« Reply #238 on: 17:29:34, 06-06-2008 » |
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Thanks for that information about Serfius and Bacchus Don B., always nice to have some background about who the Church is dedicated to although I don't think I have ever heard of them. Moving away from Wales and the Borders I have been sorting out my Prague photos. This is of St. Nicholas. I found the Churches in Prague so Baroque, so totally ornate with gold and silver and a little OTT I confess I had trouble taking it all in. It was rather overwhelming. I don't know about other people but I much prefer the simplicity of Don B's Church in Istanbul (I never saw it when I was in Istanbul unfortunately)
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