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« on: 22:35:40, 31-08-2008 » |
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Is it safe to do this online?
The first site I googled my browser didn't like...said it couldn't confirm the certificate and I wasn't impressed to see that the site hadn't been updated since 2005.
And there is something about credit card transactions and the former eastern bloc that makes my blood run cold.
Can anyone advise me?
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #1 on: 14:12:58, 01-09-2008 » |
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Haven't a clue, sk, but I'm so intrigued that I am made aware if you have any response.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #2 on: 14:50:31, 01-09-2008 » |
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I pay by credit card in E Bloc countries almost every day  Not had a single fraudulent transaction in 11 years Can't speak for Armenia since I don't have occasion to go there much these days - but it's a truly lovely place, and I deeply envy you if you're going there! Erevan itself is a bit "soviet"-looking (it was built-up during soviet times), but if you can possibly find the time, try to make excursions to Echmiadzin (the former medieval capital, and still the seat of the Armenian Autocephalous Orthodox Archimandrite - ie the Archbishop - spectacular churches from the C5-8th and after), and to Lake Sevan. Lake Sevan trout is the local speciality, and served in a number of delicious ways... "stuffed with nuts, garlic and spinach" seems to be quite a classic of the genre. You'll have a marvellous time, it's a magnificently beautiful country with a cultural heritage perversely ignored in the "West". Their choral singing (mostly in eccesiastical circumstances) is of an exceptionally delicate quality - well worth trying to find a service to attend. |
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- Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #3 on: 21:47:17, 01-09-2008 » |
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Wow. Could you fit me in your suitcase, sk? |
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« Reply #5 on: 22:28:01, 01-09-2008 » |
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Perhaps we should have an R3ok expedition to Armenia next year.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #6 on: 22:37:35, 01-09-2008 » |
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Perhaps we should have an R3ok expedition to Armenia next year.
Sign me up  Echmiadzin Cathedral (founded C4th)Unfortunately, due to accident of history, much of Armenia's cultural heritage (Lake Van & Akhdamar Royal Island) now lies across the border in Turkey. To the great sadness of Armenians, their greatest pride - Mount Ararat - can only be seen in the Turkish distance. |
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« Reply #7 on: 23:02:29, 01-09-2008 » |
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Thanks, Reiner. I've just applied for my visa on the e-visa link from the Foreign Ministry website. A bit disconcerting that the padlock icon didn't appear! I've been defrauded once this month already....I should hate to make a habit of it! Sounds like a very interesting place....a pity I shall only be there for a short time. Still, I shall make the most of it! |
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #8 on: 09:50:48, 02-09-2008 » |
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The chapter in William Dalrymple's From the Holy Mountain describing Turkish attitudes to Armenian sites and remains in political Turkey make worrying reading, as does, I believe, Turkish textbooks on the subject of Armenian history generally.
Trivia. The Armenians are the only Orthodox church to have (regrettably to my mind) introduced the use of the organ in church music.
Further trivia. The only Armenian church I have attended is in Cranley Gardens, and when it was an Anglican church, its organist for a time was Sir Arthur Sullivan.
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« Reply #9 on: 10:13:44, 02-09-2008 » |
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make worrying reading, as does, I believe, Turkish textbooks on the subject of Armenian history generally In my part of the world they would call that 'understatement', DB.  |
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #10 on: 11:15:39, 02-09-2008 » |
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But in Turkey, it would probably get me a prison sentence.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #11 on: 11:29:07, 02-09-2008 » |
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Turkey's care and attention to the Armenian monuments and architecture left in their charge can hardly be described as assiduous However, they've moved on from persecuting the Armenians to persecuting the Kurds these days. Kurds are a people but they're not a nation-state - so this gives the Turks the all-clear In the discussions in the past weeks about who has invaded who and why, it was interesting to note that Turkey invaded Northern Cyprus 34 years ago, and has so far ignored eleven United Nations Resolutions about leaving. Turkey's punishment for these infractions was to be made a member of NATO and to be listed for accelerated EU-Accession discussions |
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« Reply #12 on: 11:34:37, 02-09-2008 » |
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Turkey's punishment for these infractions was to be made a member of NATO and to be listed for accelerated EU-Accession discussions You appear to have mistaken for a potential barrier to admission to these organisations what would from all accounts rather appear to be essential qualifications.  |
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #13 on: 11:43:14, 02-09-2008 » |
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Sk does not need to know the difference between Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian Orthodox, but for the record, Armenians are non-Chalcedonians. (Greeks are Chalcedonians.) Just thought I'd mention it.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #14 on: 12:40:17, 02-09-2008 » |
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Sk does not need to know the difference between Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian Orthodox, but for the record, Armenians are non-Chalcedonians. (Greeks are Chalcedonians.) Just thought I'd mention it.
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